Joe Paterno’s Dead (1926 – 2012)

January 23rd, 2012 // 145 Comments
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“Wait. Is that a small boy trying to touch me? C’MON.”

Where do I even begin? Back in November, at the age of 85, legendary Penn State football coach Joe Paterno was fired after a grand jury testimony revealed that former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky was basically using Penn State football facilities as his own personal child-rape dungeon, and in the sake of preserving the university’s image, was simply told to take it elsewhere. Jump to three months later, and Joe Paterno died yesterday, according to CBS Sports, so it’s a pretty safe bet that the guilt accelerated his cancer and killed him. As it should’ve. Fortunately, from his death, we’ve learned that large swaths of America will overlook passing the buck on stopping a child rapist – the best case scenario at this point – when you’re the “winningest” coach in sports history. So I’m already pissed that I even mentioned all his wins because if Joe Paterno’s legacy should be remembered for anything, it’s Jerry Sandusky and how Paterno followed the bare minimum legal requirements instead of using his immeasurable clout to say, “Hey, we found this guy raping kids, let’s make sure that ends NOW.” What those kids got instead was the following quote from his last interview with the Washington Post, that Paterno gave a week before dying from his sickbed to preserve his legacy:

“I didn’t know exactly how to handle it and I was afraid to do something that might jeopardize what the university procedure was.”

“Sorry, kids, but according to this handbook, I’m only supposed to tell Tim Curley and then get back to leading young men to excellence by saying things like ‘Success with honor.’ You understand?” Of course, probably the most amazing quote from the interview that apologists who want to blame Mike McQueary for not giving Paterno all the details seem to overlook is that Joe Paterno actually tried to say he’d never heard of a man raping another man before. No, really:

“You know, he didn’t want to get specific,” Paterno said. “And to be frank with you I don’t know that it would have done any good, because I never heard of, of, rape and a man. So I just did what I thought was best. I talked to people that I thought would be, if there was a problem, that would be following up on it.”

So for those of you trying to maintain a sweet, grandfatherly image of JoePA, at least know that he wasn’t a fan of prison movies. On that note, if Joe Paterno’s legacy is to be an example of anything, it’s that blind hero worship is goddamn retarded and there’s a very simple truth why: Inside the heart of every single man, woman and child, whether it’s Mother Teresa or old-timey football coaches, lies an asshole. For such is the human condition. Homo assholicus they should’ve called us.

[Ed. Note: Nothing anyone will write about Paterno will top The Onion. Nothing. - SW]

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  1. Me

    Jesus Christ, we got your point two days ago. While I agree with you, I’m tired of hearing it.. Stop using the site as your personal soapbox.

    • vekfan

      ‘personal soapbox’ Are you fucking retarded?

      Yes, fish has a platform and he’s using it. If child rapists aren’t decried here, then who will do it? Who will speak out when it’s YOU getting butt-fucked in the shower? When it’s you, your family and your children been molested you’ll feel a lot safer knowing that fish doesn’t blog about child rape anymore because some fucktard on the net cried about him using it as a personal soapbox.

    • Jane

      Since it’s his site he can jump on any soapbox he wants to. No one is forcing you to read it.

    • Rachel

      OMG this is a huge shock to me! Who knew that people use BLOGS as soapboxes?! See what Jane wrote I suggest to listen to them.
      Blog-”A personal website on which an individual records opinions.”
      soapbox-” A thing that provides an opportunity for someone to air their views publicly”
      What do you know they mean the same thing… Well I’ll be damned.

  2. JC

    Sure, in this day and age, all The Communists and The Gays want to protect the children, but it’s not “P.C.” to stand up and protect the football. Won’t somebody think of the football?!?

  3. FattyFatty2X4

    Someone shoulda given Joe the Stinkfist

  4. People are saying it’s to soon for JoePA jokes. Guess I’ll just wait a decade to say anything, like JoePA did.

  5. mrspazi

    q: What do you call a 12 year old boy in a Penn State Football Locker Room?

    a: A tight end.

  6. Friday Jones

    Consider me President of the Super Fish & Photo Boy Fan Club, Utah Chapter.

  7. With the qualifier that Sandusky should be slowly skinned, salted, and the still-twitching pieces mailed to however many NAMBLA addresses there are in the world, and also assuming what Paterno says is true regarding his own naïveté (if not, he belongs in the packages as well), then blaming Paterno really accomplishes nothing. His generation lived in a different world from those which would follow, one where such things were not discussed FOR A REASON. There was still a far greater “small town” mentality at play, where should such a thing occur, Sandusky might well just not be there one day, and there would be no one protesting his rights to a fair trial or what have you. Society was both allowed and expected to take such things in its own hands, then, with families essentially dealing with their own problems, free of the magnifying glass modern media today holds over us all. So again: IF what Paterno says is true, then you can marvel at the unawareness, but blame is inappropriate. If what he says is untrue, stamp him and mail him.

    • Unless, of course, the bastard doing the unmentionable thing was a man of power or influence. And that is where I must disagree with you, msctex, and that is the situation we are looking at here. When the guilty bastard was the guy who owned the most land around town or could pass out a few city jobs or even just had the sort of cash that he could be counted on to give to the right pols at election time, these things weren’t discussed and they also weren’t handled.

      Yeah, the poor abusing bastard usually did get handled. They still do now. But the one with just a little bit of petty, bullshit, around the block (or around the campus) power didn’t. Joe was playing his part in one hell of a lot darker tradition than you’d like to suggest.

    • JC

      Unless the old-timey small town Paterno grew up in was founded by people living in caves and raping children with no sense of right and wrong, then blaming Paterno is still appropriate. Even if we buy that he came from a world of old-timey justice or omerta or whatever, then wouldn’t that STILL make Paterno responsible for getting his old-timey pitchfork out and helping to take care of Sandusky himself?

      But that’s assuming that Paterno’s “I don’t know what this child rape you speak of is” isn’t completely, self-serving bullshit, which it certainly was.

    • While I did enjoy the first part of your comment and I can see you put a lot of time into this nicely crafted memory-lane whitewash of an excuse, I’m sorta bemused by that statement “such things were not discussed FOR A REASON”. To claim that no one spoke up about incest or pedophilia because of the ever-present threat of small town vigilante justice is, to be charitable, the most fucking moronic thing I’ve ever heard. People of JoePa’s generation didn’t speak of incest, pedophilia and abuse NOT because the offender might do a disappearing act and “there would be no one protesting his rights to a fair trial”, but because most societies don’t want to even THINK about shit like that, let alone have to deal with it. They don’t run for pitchforks and torches, they run for blinders and brooms to sweep it all under the rug – just like every lameass Nittany apologist is doing now, and has been doing ever since this story broke.

      “Society was both allowed and expected to take such things in its own hands, then, with families essentially dealing with their own problems, free of the magnifying glass modern media today holds over us all”? “Allowed” and “expected”? Ah, yes, those wonderfully “private” days when domestic abuse was coyly known as “home correction” and if your daughter got knocked up because you were fucking her after lights out, you could just ship her off to a home for unwed mothers. Jesus wept, it’s clearly the “gotcha media” that are to blame, ruining things with their kleig lights and magnifying glasses, keeping us all hostage and MAKING us look at this unpleasant stuff, when we were doing a perfectly fine job handling it on our own.

      Blame IS appropriate, and if you can’t stop your idiotic handwringing and see that, shame on you.

      • “Idiotic handwringing?” I’m not the one whose prose lends the sense I’m about to burst into tears and fall to the floor fanning myself, Princess. Working with what I actually wrote as opposed to your inferences, much of which read like grounds for a few year’s worth of daily psychoanalysis on your part, I am simply trying to make the point that if Paterno was genuinely unaware, he can’t be held culpable. And I said IF. Even to me, it is easier to believe a memo or some such thing might emerge over time which would prove Paterno knew more than he acknowledged. But if not, he deserved to lose his job for somehow steering the ship that had such things going on below decks, but blame for the crime itself must be limited to the perpetrator and any whose silence abetted the crime. There is no such thing as Criminal Naïveté, though this situation surely makes one wish there could be.

      • dooood

        this is eloquent stuff for a tabloid / satire site.
        respek knuckles!

      • pornstar

        Justifiable, for PRESIDENT.

  8. Brought It

    Never will I understand how it is okay to make a fucking game more important than child welfare. And never will it be “too much” to denigrate the scores of people who knew about it and allowed it to happen. Is it all Joe Paterno’s fault? No, but if you’re going to be a figurehead and a “legend,” you gotta take the bad along with the good. And Joe Paterno let everyone down when he made his choice in this matter and deserves every fucking bit of tarnish to his legacy that has come his way, and then some. Karma is a bitch.

    • DeucePickle

      Perfectly said

    • cc

      ‘Never will I understand how it is okay to make a fucking game’

      I’ll never understand how fucking games became so important in the first place.

      • Lisatlantic

        Seriously, there was a time when sports were pastimes, not careers. “Professional” players did it in their spare time because they had actual careers, and nobody would have had this kind of bullshit excused just because they were a good football coach.

    • CranAppleSnapple

      Paterno actually had the nerve to say he didn’t understand what happened because he had never heard of a man doing that to a boy before. WTF?!! “Oh, a man forced himself on a child for the first time in human history? I can’t even imagine that, but it doesn’t seem like the most horrific thing ever. I’ll just ask a couple of mall cops what their opinion is.”
      There is no possible way a human being grows all the way to being an adult without ever hearing about what rape is. I suppose he never heard of murder, either. He is a LIAR.

  9. RONCO

    I hope his family sues the BoT in a wrongful death suit. Their shameful actions make them responsible for the murder of Joe Pa.

    • How did the trustees give him cancer? And just in case you’re still defending Paterno through all this: KIDS WERE RAPED! I realize that finishing 5th in the Big 10 is the greatest accomplishment a coach can have, but again, child rape.

      If this still isn’t getting through, I could come rape you and you might understand after that.

      • Why, RONCO, did the board of trustees rape Paterno to death? Did they rape him and he took his own life because of the feelings of shame and weakness and guilt that plague survivors of childhood abuse? Or did they cover up someone else raping Joe, and turn a blind eye to Joe being abused? Why if the board of trustees did something like that their actions certainly were shameful.

        But they weren’t. They just told a dying old man who had coached many seasons at a university that he couldn’t coach one last game. They told him that because of the part he played, either by omission or commission, in truly shameful acts.

      • Melinda

        The BoT did not give him cancer. But he didn’t really die of cancer, he died of something that would never appear on a death certificate anywhere- a broken heart, brought on by the Board’s shameful treatment of him. They made him into their scapegoat, when they, in fact, were the ones who should have been ousted for their coverup of Sandusky’s sins. They were the ones obligated to report the information that was relayed to them to the police, and they were the ones who chose not to, in order to preserve the school’s reputation. JoePa was only told of ONE incident- the board knew of many others. If I had been in his shoes, if I heard nothing after reporting what I had been told, I would figure that the appropriate authorities had investigated and found nothing, an that would have been the end of it. Don’t forget, he had a long professional relationship with Sandusky, as well as a friendship. Not so with McQuery, so why would he automatically assume that McQuery was telling the truth, especially since it would seem that an investigation turned up no evidence of wrongdoing on Sandusky’s part.

    • Lisatlantic

      You’re fucking retarded.

  10. Cock Dr

    Watching your entire life’s legacy being exploded and your name cursed while dying from cancer couldn’t have been fun…ain’t karma a bitch?

  11. One less witness. How long till McQueery gets into a fatal car accident?

    • Sliver

      Maybe the old fuck had his death faked and is somewhere hot and dry and comfortable on the old fuckwad’s joints…make sense to me.

  12. JenJen

    Oh my god, fuck off with the blaming Paterno for “not doing enough”. Should he have personally beaten the shit out of Sandusky himself? Who makes these asinine declarations of “he didn’t do enough” out to be fact? He didn’t personally witness the rapes, they were reported to him, and he followed university procedure. It’s absolutely ludicrous to point fingers at Paterno for “not going enough”, when he did what he was supposed to do, for god’s sakes. Is he expected to follow the police chief around and make sure HE does his job, too? Give me a break. If anyone, it should be the dude who actually SAW the crimes being committed who should be publicly lambasted. You people are frigging nuts to zero in on someone who had nothing to do with these crimes, did what he was supposed to do within the parameters of his job and position at the university, and just bc he didn’t go above and beyond and make sure everyone ELSE did their jobs and poke his nose into other people’s jobs and responsibilities, he’s somehow to blame.
    Get bent.

    • JenJen, by deciding to believe that Paterno knew only what has been publicly disclosed (because of the testimony of others) about his long-time associate’s criminal perversity and by setting the bar of Paterno’s personal responsibility as doing the absolute minimum required to protect himself from direct criminal culpability (resulting from the possible exposure because of the testimony of another) you have constructed a model that represents Paterno as well…

      ….oblivious to the environment in which his team operated…faulty in his judgement of those around him…concerned first, foremost and only with his own security and image…

      And we could go on. So best case scenario then…still pretty damned bad. And common sense would argue strongly that the best case scenario you’re trying to construct probably isn’t the true one.

    • Oogidyboogidy

      You really like gorillas?
      We’ve got just the pet for you
      It’s the way you’re forced to act
      To survive our schools

      Make your whole life revolve around sports
      Walk tough-don’t act too smart
      Be a mean machine
      Then we’ll let you get ahead

    • “Should he have personally beaten the shit out of Sandusky himself?”
      YES.

      “Who makes these asinine declarations of “he didn’t do enough” out to be fact?”
      Those who can see the truth.

      “He didn’t personally witness the rapes, they were reported to him, and he followed university procedure.”
      Following procedure? You didn’t witness the Holocaust either, but do you believe that ‘following procedure’ would have helped millions of dying people? Would you not have wanted to, oh, I dunno, take action and DO something?!

      “Is he expected to follow the police chief around and make sure HE does his job, too?”
      YES!

      “You people are frigging nuts to zero in on someone who had nothing to do with these crimes, did what he was supposed to do within the parameters of his job and position at the university, and just bc he didn’t go above and beyond and make sure everyone ELSE did their jobs and poke his nose into other people’s jobs and responsibilities, he’s somehow to blame.”
      He was their LEADER. The guy in charge, Sandusky’s boss, the captain of the Penn State football program ship! The buck stopped at his desk!! By your logic, the captain of that cruise ship that recently sank and KILLED PEOPLE shouldn’t be held accountable either, because, well, he reported it, didn’t he?

      Christ on a cracker. Good riddance JoPa – glad karma got you, you asshole.

      • JenJen

        Fabulous, then the next time I hear about an employee of mine doing something illegal at work (such as the guy who smokes dope in the bathroom from time to time and irritates another kid’s asthma), I’ll be sure to pummel him myself.

        The facts of the matter are that he did his job. Period. The man has a million things to do in his job description, and chasing around child molesters and trying to solve crimes is not on that list. He reported what (I can’t remember the guy’s name) So-and-so told him, since Paterno didn’t physically witness the rape himself, and yes, that’s ALL he needed to do as far as his responsibilities at his place of employment. End of story.

        Whether anyone else “feels” he didn’t do enough is your opinion. It may be morally irresponsible to not follow up, and it may clash with your values and ideals of what someone should do when presented with this information, but that’s OPINION. There’s a reason why his job comes with a handbook. He told his superior, and at that point his job was done.

        Society is MUCH too nosy and full of people who think everything is everyone’s business.

        The idea that the man should put his job on hold to follow around anyone connected with this crime and make sure they do their jobs and make sure that everyone is being held accountable for their appropriate actions is ludicrous. The only people who think that have way too much time on their hands.

    • jenyjenjen

      Please note jenjen and myself are not the same people. I’d never say anything this retarded.

      • foog

        Fear not – your internet alias that hides your true identity is safe and sacrosanct with us!

      • Jenjen,

        You just equated smoking pot and irritating someone else’s asthma with raping a ten year old child.

        I think you’ve made your position as clear as an unmuddied lake, Jenjen. As clear as an azure sky of deepest summer.

      • JenJen

        No, but you’d be incredibly un-PC and say “retarded” like that. Touche.

      • pornstar

        JenJen…the world is full of people like yourself, apathetic, uninvolved, concerned with themselves only…

        However, if you ever find yourself a victim of rape, if there are witnesses, may they mind their own business, and keep on walking.

    • OMFG, JenJen, it’s just so clear to me now! Because an adult employee with asthma who can speak up for himself if his coworker’s dope habits irritates his bronchii is EXACTLY the same thing as an at-risk underage child of eleven being raped in the shower by the grown man who’s been grooming him for this and also outweighs him by over 100 pounds. How could I not have seen the similarities?

      So the next time I see the bus driver that’s supposed to, say, take your kids to and from school smoking a fattie right before he gets behind the wheel, I’ll be sure and think twice about butting in and reporting it, because society is just waaay too “nosy” about shit like that. What do I care – my conscience will be clear if I do nothing, because I really have no legal responsibility, right?

      And if those kids of yours don’t happen to make to home safe, it’ll be all to the good – I mean, really, your genes sure as fuck don’t need to be in the pool, right?. Hey, just my OPINION.

      • Why is everyone fingerpointing at Joe, when the real person they should be pointing fingers at is Mike McQueary, who has seemingly disappeared. He was 28 years old. He WITNESSED a child being raped, and did pretty much nothing except sneak away. And the man can’t even keep a story straight, first saying that he did nothing, and then in an e-mail to a friend he claimed he went to a police station. Really? You’re lying somewhere, buddy. And Mike McQueary, at his stature, could’ve EASILY taken down Sandusky in that locker room, protecting the child he knew was probably getting raped. The only reason he’s on administrative leave still at the school is because they can’t fire him under whistleblower laws. He told the students he coached, immediately after the incident, he won’t be able to come back.

        What was Joe supposed to do? Pull McQueary by his ear to the police? The incident was investigated by Joe’s boss (yes, he has one… imagine that. He isn’t the all powerful being that everyone thinks he is.) McQueary himself told Curley and Schultz what was done after Joe reported the abuse to them (as is what you are supposed to do when you suspect [not witness] child abuse.)

        So, let’s keep finger pointing at Joe and forget that there’s a man that shouldn’t have done it in the first place (Sandusky,) a man who witnessed the rape (McQueary,) and 2 other men that are actually charged with the cover-up (Schultz and Curley.)

        And let’s not forget the Attorney General-turned-Governor Corbett who declined to prosecute to wait for another boy to get molested, because they didn’t have a strong enough case.

      • CranAppleSnapple

        @JenJen
        You’re disgusting. And I hope you are never the only hope a child has.

        @Kelly
        “What was Joe supposed to do? Pull McQueary by his ear to the police?”
        YES!!! What the fuck is wrong with you people! Once a person knows about something like that, THEY have to act!!! I weep for the kids in this world who are blissfully unaware that none of the adults around them will actually protect them! Believe me, I know whereof I speak. One day you are fine, and the next you are begging for help and the adults are glaring at you and telling you to shut up.

      • Melinda

        If you SEE it, you report it. But it someone else TELLS you they saw it, you either convince them to report it, or report it yourself, with the understanding that you are merely relaying second-hand information- also known as “heresay” and generally inadmissable as evidence in court…

    • If you are going to scream about Joe not dragging McQueary down to the police, then scream about Curley and Schultz not doing it either. They were told by McQueary as well. The only reason people are screaming about Joe is because he was Joe Paterno.

      • CranAppleSnapple

        @Kelly
        They are ALL to blame. Jackass. You are the one trying to let Paterno off the hook. They are ALL to blame.

    • No, Paterno ISN’T off the hook, by any means. He should’ve followed up with his boss, asked him what was going on. But it seems all the blame is falling back on Paterno, and not at the 5 other adult men involved in this. At least Joe followed some sort of protocol.

      McQueary should’ve been less vague, Curley and Schultz knew just as much as Paterno supposedly did, if not more, because they even got McQueary to lie to Graham Spanier, and the Attorney General knew of the charges, but was waiting for another kid to get sexually assaulted. And, of course, Sandusky because he should’ve shot himself in the head when he realized he was sexually attracted to children. McQueary’s father earns an honorable mention here because he should’ve encouraged his son to go the police when he called him the same night, asking what to do. I’m just sick of Joe Paterno being so heavily criticized when there were a lot more people involved, and in the same exact position that Joe was placed in (except for McQueary. He was in a stronger position to do something, and he isn’t getting enough of the blame.)

  13. woody

    so we must be sorry he’s gone?
    ……I DON’T THINK SO, folks!!

  14. Oogidyboogidy

    Jock-O-Rama-Save my soul
    We’re under the thumb of the Beef Patrol
    The future of America is in their hands
    Watch it roll over Niagara Falls
    Pep rally in the holy temple
    And you’re forced to go
    Masturbate en masse
    With the favored religious cult
    Cheerleaders yell-”Ra Ra Team”
    From the locker room parades the prime beef
    When archaeologists dig this up
    They’ll either laugh or cry

  15. Why is that statue pointing a finger in the air…..we know what it was used for.

  16. Chucky D

    Winningest? Maybe.

    Ass-coveringest? Pass-the-buckiest? Not-my-faultiest? Yes on all counts.

  17. tonawanda

    Wow, the ignorance of what actually happened at Penn State is pretty laughable here.

    Four things: 1) Paterno did nothing any of you would have done if told the same thing about someone you thought you knew well; 2) He didn’t do anything “illegal”, regardless of your hypocritical moral grandstanding; 3) If more of you claim you’d do something more than Paterno did, then we wouldn’t have 20% of all kids under age 16 being molested in this country — because guess what? It’s happening in YOUR neighborhood, too — RIGHT NOW. What have YOU done about THAT?; 4) Scapegoats make us all feel better when we don’t like what we know in our hearts to be true about our own actions. I’m guessing most of you were molested yourselves and wish someone had done something about it — fair enough, but don’t blame Paterno for your own struggles.

    Go blame the cops in 1998 who did nothing about Sandusky. Go blame the parents of the early victims here who didn’t blow Sandusky’s nuts off with their own shotguns. There are a thousand people MORE culpable than Paterno in this case, but everyone singles him out because he’s … Paterno.

    Laughable mob mentality … and completely ignorant of reality, both in your own lives and society.

    • Oogidyboogidy

      Jock-O-Rama-On the brain
      Redneck-a-thon drivin’ me insane
      The future of America is in their hands
      Watch it roll over Niagara Falls
      Unzip that old time religion
      On the almighty football field
      Beerbellies of all ages
      Come to watch the gladiators bleed
      “Now boys, this game ain’t played for fun
      You’re going out there to win
      How d’ya win?
      Get out there
      And snap the other guy’s knee!”

      Beat ‘em up! Beat ‘em up!
      Ra Ra Ra
      Snap those spinal cords
      Ha Ha Ha

    • Tonawanda, your response tells others a lot more about you than it does anyone else. Your points 1 and 3 tell us about who you are and what you would have done. Or at least what you’d have us think, in your pitiful defense of Paterno. Are you really saying you wouldn’t have confronted “someone you thought you knew well” if you even suspected children were being harmed, much less had direct testimony from someone else “you thought you knew well”?

      Really?

      That you wouldn’t have followed up with the child’s parents?

      Really?

      Well here’s a newsflash. That’s not how real humans behave. And although I might have some small sympathy for someone not confronting a predator like this if they feared them (physically…financially) that was not the case here. Joe Paterno did what he did and chose not to do the things he chose not to do, all from a position of financial security, institutional power and public goodwill.

      The only valid point you have is that there are a lot of people who share responsilibity for what happened at Penn State. When the others die the earth will be lighter for the loss of their weight and I will certainly not weep at their passing. Paterno’s dead. That’s one.

      • JenJen

        Idiot.

      • JenJen

        I’m sure that the head coaches of top US university football teams have nothing but free time to make phone calls and hold hands and involve themselves in things have are none of their business, when it is someone else’s job to “follow up” and play catch-the-criminal. Right between #372 and #374 on today’s To-Do List.

        Your ignorance is laughable.

        So then, if you call the cops on your neighbours who are being loud (sounds like fighting but you’re not sure…), you should wait for the cops to get there, demand to be privy to the conversation between The Law and The (Alleged) Criminal(s), request a copy of the police report, talk to the couple and their children afterwards to get a good handle on the situation, and then “FOLLOW UP” for weeks afterwards to ensure everything is on the straight and narrow. Sure, it’s not child rape, but a crime is a crime in America.

        Because you have NOTHING better to do that mind everyone else’s business.

    • If Paterno would have acted completely the same had it been one of his own grandkids, then I’ll stop bashing him. Kids were raped. The argument that he did his legal obligation doesn’t fly when kids are being raped. This wasn’t a booster taking a couple guys to Applebee’s or giving out 100 dollar handshakes. Kids were raped.

      If you tell the folks in charge and the cops aren’t there an hour later taking someone out in handcuffs, call the cops yourself. If that doesn’t work, you call the State Police. Keep going until Sandusky is being arrested. Kids were raped. Do something until it stops.

      If anyone ever tells me that someone I know is doing this, it stops then and there. Cops will be called immediately. If I find it involving my nephew, I get a 5 minute head start to go kill this person, and then call the cops.

      • JenJen

        OMFG, you’re telling me that people are supposed to act with the same passion and determination when a stranger is raped versus their own family member?

        HE DID HIS LEGAL OBLIGATION is all that matters. Anyone’s opinion of “he didn’t do his moral obligation” is redundant. Why is no one attacking Paterno’s supervisor for not flipping out and killing Sandusky with his bare hands? Or the guy who actually witnessed the crime?

        This is about a man doing his job, and he DID HIS JOB.

    • JenJen

      “There are a thousand people MORE culpable than Paterno in this case, but everyone singles him out because he’s … Paterno.”

      Amen. The headline “

      • JenJen…once again, you’ve made who you are and what you’re made of remarkably clear. First, you have already judged that Paterno did his legal obligation. As more facts are discovered in this case it may turn out that he did not.

        Second, you ask why no one is holding Curley, Schultz of McQueary responsible as well and the answer to that, which you would know if you weren’t focused solely on whitewashing Paterno’s role is that EVERYONE is. Paterno just died, which triggered another wave of would be whitewashing of this horrific matter, which in turn triggered a wave of revulsion from people who possess a moral compass that values the protection of children over the winning of college football games.

        Lastly you say Paterno was doing his job, but the way he conducted himself in this matter brought shame, ridicule and disdain upon the university he was tasked with representing in a positive light. In the end he not only failed to do what was right, he failed even at doing his job.

      • JC

        Let’s not miss the fact that JenJen just stated that Paterno was too busy being a coach of a football team to call the cops. I’d put that in the top 10 dumbest things I’ve ever heard. It makes me weep for the future of humanity.

        JenJen, I hope you’re never a victim of a crime and the only people who can help are busy and important people like college football coaches, because by your (completely absence) of logic, you’re pretty much screwed.

      • And wow, Jejen…are you really this dumb?

        This isn’t someone fighting next door. This was someone raping a child in Paterno’s house. Someone Paterno had a longstanding and close relatiohsip with raping a child in the shower of the athletic facility where Paterno worked every day.

        And are you really trying to say that big important college football coaches don’t have time to bother dealing with the rape of children in the room where their team showers? Or anyplace, even vaguely connected with their area of responsibility? Is that really the sadly pathetic, morally bankrupt last stand you’ve retreated to? Unka’ Joe didn’t have time to follow-up on one of his money men and former assistants raping a child in the university facility for which Unka’ Joe was responsible?

      • Ooops…hi, JC. See you already got that.

      • Jen

        JenJen, you obviously don’t have children.

    • Equinox/JC, I’m sure JenJen knows a lot about the lack of free time that Top U coaches have, and will tell you that between washing all the towels and jocks, making sure the locker room is neat and tidy, and lining up the priest rotation for the pregame prayer, it’s just a scheduling nightmare to make sure that all the players get tucked in at night, let alone having a free second to call the cops and follow up with the U president when a child is being molested on U property in the locker room showers by one of the coaches under your command.

      Really, what’s a better use of a head coach’s time here, making sure the towels are properly folded or running around after your subordinate coaches making sure their penises aren’t being parked in little boys’ anuses? All I can say is, policing the perma-press cycle is no laughing matter. I don’t see why you silly little ethically-burdened people just can’t appreciate that.

      • Dear Equinox, Uncle Phil, JC & justifiable:
        Thank you! I thought I was the only one who saw JenJen for the apologist idjit she seems to be. Football coaches don’t have time to report children being raped? If that is truly the case, it’s definitely time to re-prioritize!

    • Sliver

      To tonowanda and that fucknut JenJen, yes I was molested. And I fear for kids today who are in the same situation I was, and have to rely on wet-noodle, pantywaists like you two..you’d both stand there wringing your hands, concerned about protecting some geriatric’s career, as opposed to what you really should have been doing. I just hope your kind is the more rare. And I hope you never have kids. Because, who will protect them?

    • Melinda

      Bravo!

  18. ALionWearingAScarf

    I feel sorry for all the hypocrites and liars who are so quick to condemn a good man. I think it’s easier to point fingers than to try and find who Joe Pa really was. I take comfort in knowing that any person who speaks out against Joe Pa is obviously a mental defective who has serious deficiencies in their own lives, so they try to build themselves up be destroying an old man’s legacy, even now that he is in Heaven with our LORD.

  19. Clark Kent

    Something I’ve not heard asked or discussed: Was the victim whose molestation was witnessed by McQueary black? And if so, might that have something to do with his and Paterno’s silence? Looking for info on this just now, I see that there are some media articles about the possibility that the “at-risk youth” and “underprivileged kids” in question were black boys, and that this may have had something to do with “the tone” of the university’s response, and Paterno’s et al. I would not be surprised.

    • Melinda

      Neither McQueary nor Paterno was silent. Both gave their accounts to the Penn State Athletic Director.

  20. Before this child shower rape scandal broke, I’d never heard the name Joe Paterno before. So no matte what anyone says about his “legacy”, to people like me his ONLY legacy is indifference to buggery of little boys.

    Seeya Joe, wouldn’t wanna be ya!

  21. Nicole

    I know Fish doesn’t believe in God or Jesus so this type of post shouldn’t surpise me. But as funny as I find this site and as much as I excuse some of the comments I find questionable because this is afterall a gossip website, I gotta say you are way off base here. Did he make an enormous error in judgment, yes? Should/Could he have done more, I’m sure the answer is yes. But that does not completely take away every good thing he did in his entire 85 years. He was not just a football coach. Read the comments from the people who knew and played for him. Everyone of them talk about how he went way beyond football and stayed involved in their lives long past football. He cared about people, about education, about shaping lives in a positive way. I don’t see a cover up, I don’t see him looking the other way. Denial, yes, naive, yes. And I bet he went to his grave with incredible guilt that maybe he could have stopped it. But to post as if he deserved to die and that hero worship for college football is the whole reason while boys were violated and Paterno is nearly as bad as Sandusky, no, that ridiculous.

    • Brought It

      “Everyone of them talk about how he went way beyond football and stayed involved in their lives long past football except in cases of child rape because, well, football.”

      There, fixed that for you.

    • I’m sure it’s just an odd coincidence that all the young men whose lived he worked so hard to enrich could run a 4.3 40 and bench press 375 lbs.

    • To begin a post in which you defend a man of permitting children to be harmed who he could have helped with the comment “Fish doesn’t believe in God or Jesus so this type of post shouldn’t surprise me” is…skeezy. And thank you for giving us your notion of what Paterno was thinking on his way out, but what he was saying in his last days was the sort of legacy protecting nonsense he had spouted throughout the process.

      I mean a good Christian man like Unka’ Joe not knowing about the man rape? Surely he read Genesis, right? Sodom and Gomorrah? Angels in the form of comely young men? Angry crowds of men who wanted to rape them?

      I mean surely.

  22. Teco

    Anyone that judges Paterno for one incident of poor judgement should take a closer look at themselves. Are we all guilty of murdering little kids if we choose not to send money to 3rd world countries where children starve to death? You know they need help, you know they’ll die without your help, you do nothing but turn the channel yet nobody labels you a murderer. Leave the man some dignity.

    • Nice sophistry. And the next time I rape a child I’ll claim “poor judgment” and point out that little kids get murdered every day through omission because people in this country won’t send money to Darfur, so why should I be arrrested and judged? I should have my dignity and my freedom, because really, no man is perfect, right?

      If you want to get technical and start arguing the difference between sins of omission and commission, go right ahead, but first I’ll invite to you to look up “complicity” as it relates to crime. If you allow a criminal to continue to commit crimes when you have the opportunity to stop those crimes from occurring, you’re a de-facto accessory. Telling Curley as the “authority” and not reporting it to the cops doesn’t exactly get Paterno off the hook, since Sandusky obviously still had access to the kids in Second Mile.

      And if you seriously can’t tell the difference between someone not sending money to famine relief and someone who, when directly told by an eyewitness, that an employee of theirs is keeping children in a closet in the workplace and systematically starving them,and then does nothing about it for a decade, then you’re fucking certifiable.

      • RJ

        We must have all missed that it was Joe who did the raping…

        By the way, Schultz was the university police at the time, so technically he did go to the police. You should at least get the facts crystal clear before you make judgement.

        The funny thing though, since we’re bringing up starving children, is that people are reacting in so strong of a way that it seems like it was their own kids that got raped. When in reality, they don’t give a shit anymore about those kids than they do starving kids in third world countries.

      • People are reacting in so strong a way because Sandusky raped at least this child in a facility Paterno worked in day in and day out. Because Sandusky had both been an assistant coach and a fundraiser for the program. Because the very minimum to protect himself from criminal charges was done by Paterno and even less was done by Curly and Schultz, and all of this in the case of a man who was bringing money from high end donors into their program,

        Every one of you defenders try to strip away the context from this in a way that shows the intellectual dishonesty and moral emptiness of your position.

        Now we have reached the point of “if you don’t personally go to the Congo to kill the warlords creating child armies you’re as responsible as Unka’ Joe was for turning a blind eye to the sexual depradations of a close associate that were taking place in the building where Unka’ Joe worked!”.

        Really, really nice. No really. Bravo.

      • RJ

        I don’t know what to say, Equinox. You said absolutely nothing in that post outside of point fingers with no basis. Go read my post two below this one and respond to that.

      • What I would say about your post below, RJ, is that…

        1. The PA State Police Commissioner thinks Paterno had a moral obligation to do more…whether he was the head coach or a street sweeper…or something to that extent.

        2. Sandusky brought lots of money into the program. The story of precisely what Paterno knew and when began to get murky as soon as the heat started to build (after all, it now seems to have been revealed the Paterno didn’t even know a man could rape another man, meaning at the very least he never read the Bible or Shakespeare), but one thing we do know with absolute certainty. At least one child was rape in a facility over which Paterno had responsibility by a man who had access to the facility based on a relationship with the school’s basketball program, over which Paterno had responsibility. And Paterno did the absolute minimum.

        You can choose not to see the implications. Who knows, maybe you are even right and there was nothing deeper at work than that which has been absolutely proven. But even that was a gross dereliction of Paterno’s duties and moral responsibilities. It was either enabling on a profound and deeply disturbing level or it was a head coach who just didn’t want to try too hard to find out anything bad about a guy bringing big bucks into the school, which, yeah, even in the best case scenario is…enabling.

      • But more, to the point, RJ, I pointed a finger at a specific comment you (and at least 1 other poster) had made in this thread and called it out for what it was. Intellectually dishonest and morally empty.

        “The funny thing though, since we’re bringing up starving children, is that people are reacting in so strong of a way that it seems like it was their own kids that got raped. When in reality, they don’t give a shit anymore about those kids than they do starving kids in third world countries.”

        The vile words were yours. I just pointed out that they were vile.

        And self revelatory, of course. Because you don’t care about starving children or I guess from what you wrote, anyone’s children but your own being raped, you assume no one else could either. It is a lack of empathy that you’re demonstrating here.

        Because you don’t care about children starving or being raped (unless they’re yours) you assume no one else does. And because you care about football and Joe Paterno’s legacy as a winning college football coach you are anxious to defend that which is important to you.

        Therefore a child being raped by Paterno’s buddy, a big fundraiser for the program, becomes morally equivalent (at least in what you’ve written here…and those are your words) with starving kids in Africa or other people’s children being raped in general…which is to say, not important. Surely not as important as football.

        That’s what I was pointing the finger at, RJ. It wasn’t empty. It was pretty full of something.

    • pippa

      teco. your argument, well, its not really an argument…see you can’t equate indirect and direct culpability like that, its not logical. what you said is that not sending money to the developing world in hopes of feeding children is poor judgement equivalent to joe paterno not doing everything in his power to make sure that the law breaking that was happening in his locker rooms perpetrated by a member of his staff stopped. first, look at the joe paterno half of your equation. the victims here are children, just like the starving ones in various places across the globe BUT the DIRECT cause of the children’s suffering in the joe paterno case was the activity (rape) that he witnessed. thus, he had the direct ability, not to mention the legal and moral obligation, to STOP the suffering and save other future victims from similar fates at the hands of this particular perpetrator. in the case of starving children in developing nations their starvation is a SYMPTOM of a larger, or many larger problems stemming from a plethora of social, political, and economic components operating at the local, national, regional and global levels. so the ‘perpetrator’ here is amorphous. sending money to feed starving children (assuming the money actually ends up doing that, as lots of the money from aid organizations ends up in the hands of the those who are the local agents of political, social and economic turmoil in those regions, i.e. warlords, organized crime groups, etc) does not remove the chance for the amorphous ‘perpetrator’ to act again. feeding children now doesn’t guarantee that they won’t starve later, it doesn’t eliminate the direct cause of their suffering. Secondly, you say in your “argument” that “you know they’ll [the starving children] die without your help”, but the thing is, we are ALL aware of the fact that there are children starving all over the world, so we all have equal opportunity to try to help them. the Joe Paterno example is exactly the opposite. he knew, what few people did. meaning HE had the UNIQUE opportunity to save those boys from exploitation. starving children will starve without food but they will not starve without food from ME SPECIFICALLY. boys were getting raped and they would continue to get raped unless not just anybody, but Paterno, did something to stop it. Finally, while historically, and to a certain degree, currently, the governments of western democratic countries and individuals in their capacities as citizens of those states as well as consumers in the global economy have contributed to the social, political, and economic conditions that allow for millions upon millions of children to grow up in abject poverty, we as individuals are not directly responsible for placing individual children in those circumstances. Paterno was responsible for placing children directly in harms way. he hired the perpetrator giving him the access/ability to commit crimes against the victims that he otherwise would not have had. no one deserves dignity, in the form of public admiration, who had the means, opportunity and obligation to protect the dignity of those who could not protect themselves and chose to ignore their suffering instead…… anyone who continues, even on his literal [and figurative] deathbed, to provide excuses and justifications for this type of behavior clearly lost all vestiges of the self-respect from which dignity is derived LONG AGO………….on another note: thanks for your coverage of this superficial. i couldn’t agree more.

      • dooood

        you cannot save the world. nobody can. not even batman.
        the best you can do is be a good person and respect others.

        we are not two we are one.

        people want to address poverty, famine, homelessness & unemployment & a generally fuct up world economy.

        any wise enough expert will tell you the actual problem is over population.
        money is actually worthless, it only represents trust. something people have less and less of for each other. so it will continue to become less valuable.
        there are no more (at least far less than there used to be) goods and services anymore. most traditional employment is now obsolete. all that exists now is non stop advertisement for insurance. a service that asks for as much money as they possibly can, then does whatever they can to provide the least amount legally required.

        i don’t want to come across as racist or prejudice but there are many cultures that screw and reproduce at extreme rates without any thoughts of the future of their offspring.

        the problems aren’t famine, poverty, etc etc.
        they are the symptoms

  23. Brought It

    Child rape sure brings the trolls out of the woodwork.

    • You’re just buying into the “gotcha” media version of the story that wants to destroy everything that made America great.

      • Brought It

        Yep. I’m clearly a victim of media brainwashing. We all are. Shame on the media for making such a big deal out of child rape. Remember football!

      • dooood

        i wasn’t aware that is was child rape that made america great.
        to think.. after all this time.. it was child rape all along

  24. mk

    I came here specifically because I could not wait to see what you would have to say about this, and you did not disappoint. Damn, I love this site.

  25. RJ

    While there’s absolutely no way to condone that Joe didn’t do enough, maybe we can all be level headed here and look at what we know.
    A) Joe DID do something. May have been the minimum, but he did take some kind of action. So first things first, anyone throwing around the bullshit “enabling” tags need to shut up.
    B) His comments that Mcqueary didn’t tell him any specific details. Look at the quote above, he said he didn’t hear anything about rape. Hearing “I saw something, not sure exactly what it was” is a hell of a lot different than hearing “I saw him raping a young boy.” Not to mention Joe didn’t know anything about the 98 investigation. And after hearing from Mcqueary, he went back to Spanier a bunch of times to check if they were looking into it.
    C) If you went to Penn State, you know he wasn’t just a football coach. He did plenty of other good things for the school.

    My point is, unless he actually knew for a fact that a rape occurred, he’s the very least to blame among everyone involved. Including Mcqueary. Not saying he isn’t to blame, but all this heat he’s taking as if he told Sandusky himself to do it is bullshit.

  26. JB

    Fuck you Superficial. He was a great man who made a great mistake. You however are a trashy web site with no moral standing to judge anyone.

    • Unless Fish has turned a blind eye to a child rapist, then yeah, he’s got all the moral standing he needs.

      • RJ

        No, but then again let’s hope Fish’s Tebow joke last week was just that: a joke. And even then that was as low as you can get, wishing death on a guy simply because he likes to be outspoken about his religion. And last I checked, about the only thing worse than raping a kid is killing one right? So keep those abortion jokes coming, Fish. That’s the kind of mentality we expect from a guy who’s contribution to the world is blogging about celebrities lives. Keep up the hard work!

      • Keep on comin’ back to read, RJ!

      • RJ

        Oh, I’ll keep coming back! Just like Fish and everyone keeps bitching about Kim Kardashian being a fame whoring disease, yet still giving them publicity day in and day out. Oh no!!! I just made 90% of America a hypocrite!!!

      • Oh my, someone has much too high an opinion of himself. Remember, football.

    • RJ

      lol Thinking high of myself? What the hell does that even mean? Is your personal way of sticking your foot in your mouth spitting out random phrases?

  27. TheListener

    The Huffington Post website has a timeline of events leading to Paterno’s firing that shows that at least 6 people knew over the course of several years of Sandusky’s actions at Penn State, but not one of them filed a report with the university police or the local police department. SIX PEOPLE knew and NOT ONE OF THEM contacted local authorities. So why did Paterno take the biggest hit? In my opinion, the university needed a scapegoat so they threw Paterno under the bus. As far as I’m concerned, everyone who knew is equally to blame for not reporting the crime to police, not just Paterno.

    • CranAppleSnapple

      They are equally to blame. They should ALL be punished. No one says otherwise. Paterno is one of them.

      • TheListener

        CranAppleSnapple, the problem is that that’s not the way the media is presenting it. The media makes it seem as if Joe Paterno somehow had GREATER culpability than others for not reporting the molestation allegation to police. And the public seems devoted in delivering hate-filled attacks on him ALONE. Where’s the moral outrage against the other 5 people who knew what was happening and didn’t report it to the police?! Again, the university needed to provide the public a face to focus it’s outrage. Magicians call it misdirection. While the public is distracted on the left hand by focusing on Paterno, the university can use it’s right hand to cover itself and do damage control. BRILLIANT and the public falls for it every time!

  28. Gumby McFarland

    I blah blah blah kids in the shower blah blah blah should have called police blah blah blah blah obligation blah blah blah anal penitration blah blah blah locker room blah blah blah handful of lubricant blah blah blah blah paterno’s pants around his ankles blah blah blah wiping the kids tears blah blah blah blah with his wrinkled old dong blah blah blah blah

  29. Butters

    Of course the only reason any of you know anything about this is because Paterno told his superiors.

    What an excellent cover up. I just see him sitting thinking… “Let me half ass this and destroy the legacy I spent decades creating.”

    Too bad he died before we could have burned him at the stake.

    • Actually, Butters, no. You are factually absolutely wrong. The incident occurred in 2002. The investigation began in 2008. McQ testified before a grand jury in 2010.

      Neither Paterno nor any of his superiors performed a whistle blower function in this case. Maybe you should read something about it. Not a lot. Just a little. It won’t hurt.

      • Butters

        You don’t seem to know what a coverup is.

        When he testified and what he said is not the critical part of assessing blame here.

        If McQueary or Paterno thought they were doing anything wrong either in 2002 or 2008 their stories would have been much better.

        Trying thinking things through. Just a little. It might hurt though.

  30. “Of course the only reason any of you know anything about this is because Paterno told his superiors.”

    That’s from your post. And it’s not true. And what happened when is…yeah…a critical part of establishing the veracity of that untrue statement.

    • Butters

      Ok,

      Maybe that wasn’t the best way to say what I meant. I mean we think know what happened because of the testimony based on this chain of events.

      The perjury prosecution of the AD and I think PSU president by the Grand Jury was against his superiors because they did nothing with the statements he told them. Our set of facts is based on this.

      If Paterneo was “all in” for protecting the program his testimony would have been a lot different, or at least you would think it would be because what came out was extremely damaging with him only luckily avoiding charges himself.

      • Butters

        Why would he have even said anything all? He could have told McQueary to squelch it. If Victim 2 ever said anything they could have denied it.

        Instead they go down this weak half assed plea that they informed up.

  31. Jules

    I wish the webmaster would remove comments from this post. The man had died…he left a wife and family and grandchildren. On the most basic level of who hewas as a man, there are people who mourn his loss…please…show respect for his family and friends and remove these posts.

  32. Rico Jones

    This whole story is very telling. Seeing the countless people turn out to pay respects to JoePA was just disgusting. It seems that there are a lot of sad pathetic people in this country. People that are willing to worship a man they have never met. A man that turns out to be involved in some very bad decision making. Yet they all turn out and cry for him. Maybe I shouldn’t be shocked. This sort of thing happens with the Catholic church all the time and people still go.

  33. RJ

    I was gonna post this in reply to Equinox above, but I’m kinda curious to everyone’s opinion on this. Joe’s level of obligation was based on what he actually knew, right? So put yourself in Joe’s shoes and let’s play by what he said Mcqueary told him.

    Mcqueary comes to you personally and says “I saw Coach Sandusky doing something to a kid in the shower. I dunno what, but…he was doing something.” You never witnessed anything, you never had any knowledge of past allegations against someone you knew personally. This is a guy that seemed to do a lot of good things in life. All you have is this graduate assistant telling you he saw something, and being very vague about it at that. The moral high ground is taking this info to the police and the president for them to look into it, correct? We know Joe did this.

    So from there, what’s your next move?

    • Brought It

      You say, “What do you mean, ‘something?’ What exactly was happening? Was the child endangered? Was something untoward going on? WAS SOMETHING HORRIFIC AND WRONG BEING DONE IN MY HOUSE?!” That’s what your next move is.

  34. mrmojorisin

    Ew. Who else starts to feel the vomit coming up into their throat after reading comments that support and defend this piece of shit old man? Thumbs up to all the posters putting those morons in their place.

  35. talk about blind...

    I am so tired of all this!!! Why does all the blame fall on him????? What about the asshole who he reported to and subsequently did nothing?? Did he get fired? Does anyone know or care? Not defending Paterno and saying what he did was ‘enough’, but jesus, he’s not the only one who didn’t follow through on this disgusting crime.

  36. mrmojorisin

    I dunno, I guess to me that if you were informed that children were being raped under the roof of the facility you basically run that procedures and what not would just fly out the window and you would take action RIGHT AWAY to protect those little ones and stop that monster. I don’t give a shit about how “he did what he thought fit” for dealing with the situation…and its even worse that he knew about these crimes years before it came to light for the public.

  37. Sean

    Excellent story written by an abuse victim called “F**K Joe Paterno” that is getting lots of attention:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/22/1057341/-F**k-Joe-Paterno-(Updated)

  38. Roxine

    A link to something I wrote yesterday – I was 5 when the grooming began http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/15/1065031/-Tree-Climbers-I-was-5-when-the-grooming-began?via=blog_817147

    SJF Said what many of us wanted to say with her “F**k Joe Paterno” post… http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/22/1057341/-F-k-Joe-Paterno-Final-Important-Update-please-read-lt-3-?via=user

    In fact, that’s how I found her post. I had never been to DailyKos before that day. And the reason I found her post is because I typed in “Fuck Joe Paterno” into my browser.

    Why? Because all of the media attention and coverage being given to his passing should be for the children – for the boys that were raped/fondled/sexually abused. All of that media attention should be on the issue, not on a part of the problem that allows it to continue.

    SJF, like me, was screaming at the top of her lungs that THIS ISN’T ABOUT JOE PATERNO! It’s about the reason children continue to be sexually abused today. Because it makes people so uncomfortable. The very thought of a child being sexually abused – no. that’s too clinical a term. Let me spell it out for you where our rage comes from…

    Roxine 5 Years Old, 1973
    ******Triggering
    My grandfather started with come sit on my lap. At night, during the news. He was in his robe. I was in my nightgown. I was 5.
    Then it was come sit on my lap and his robe would be opened – and his penis would be exposed. And he would put me on top of him.

    Then he would make a game out of “making his penis jump” it was touch this. Stroke this. Kiss this. Lick this. Suck this. Ooooooh, look how it jumps – you made it move! I was 5.

    He made his perversion into a game. With lots of tickling and hugging and fondling. A girls vagina will respond to manipulation. Even at 5 years old. He would lay me down on his bed and perform oral sex on me.

    He would use his fingers and manipulate my vagina. I was 5 and it continued until I was 13, getting more brazen – oral sex on him, insertion, rape, anal rape. Disgusted yet?

    Or have you just stopped reading because it makes you too uncomfortable?

    Oh, and why didn’t I tell? Anyone? Because first he told me it was our little secret and no one would understand… our “special relationship”. And then he told me as I got older that no one would believe me – I was just a kid and would be labeled a liar, and then he told me that he would kill my mother if I told, that he would kill me – he held a knife to my throat once and the threats escalated each time. And as a child – you believe these threats.

    He’s a grown up. Why would he lie?
    So our anger, our disgust, our outrage with the non-stop media coverage and idolatry of Joe Paterno is because, again, the true horrors of what child sexual abuse looks like isn’t being told. The lifelong effects of what child sexual abuse does to a person isn’t the focus. Joe Paterno is the focus because the media can’t stomach what the truth looks like. You can’t stomach it. Hell, I lived it and I’m about to throw up just typing this. But this is where our anger and confusion and frustration comes from. Listen to the stories – Hear us. See us. Honor US.
    “No One Spoke Up for Us”: For The Children Who Had No Voice and For those finally finding Theirs

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