Paul Haggis shitcans Scientology

October 26th, 2009 // 52 Comments

Oscar-winning director and screenwriter Paul Haggis has publicly left the Church of Scientology after they lied about their support for Proposition 8 and fired off a scathing letter to the church’s “mouthpiece” Tommy Davis:

On broken promises over Prop 8:
“In that first conversation, back at the end of October of last year, you told me you were horrified, that you would get to the bottom of it and “heads would roll.” You promised action. Ten months passed. No action was forthcoming. The best you offered was a weak and carefully worded press release, which praised the church’s human rights record and took no responsibility. Even that, you decided not to publish.
The church’s refusal to denounce the actions of these bigots, hypocrites and homophobes is cowardly. I can think of no other word. Silence is consent, Tommy. I refuse to consent.”

On letting the Mormom Church take the blame:
“Despite all the church’s words about promoting freedom and human rights, its name is now in the public record alongside those who promote bigotry and intolerance, homophobia and fear.
The fact that the Mormon Church drew all the fire, that no one noticed, doesn’t matter. I noticed. And I felt sick. I wondered how the church could, in good conscience, through the action of a few and then the inaction of its leadership, support a bill that strips a group of its civil rights.”

On lying about the practice of disconnection:
“You might recall that my wife was ordered to disconnect from her parents because of something absolutely trivial they supposedly did twenty-five years ago when they resigned from the church. This is a lovely retired couple, never said a negative word about Scientology to me or anyone else I know – hardly raving maniacs or enemies of the church. In fact it was they who introduced my wife to Scientology.
Although it caused her terrible personal pain, my wife broke off all contact with them. I refused to do so. I’ve never been good at following orders, especially when I find them morally reprehensible.
For a year and a half, despite her protestations, my wife did not speak to her parents and they had limited access to their grandchild. It was a terrible time.
That’s not ancient history, Tommy. It was a year ago.”

Wait. Scientology encourages you to not talk to your in-laws? Xenu’s nutsac, why aren’t they promoting that part of it? All you ever hear about is aliens in volcanoes and Katie Holmes birthing a clone of L. Ron Hubbard. We’ve been looking at this thing all wrong…

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  1. havoc

    “Haggis is a dish containing sheep’s ‘pluck’ (heart, liver and lungs), minced with onion, oatmeal, suet, spices, and salt, mixed with stock, and traditionally boiled in the animal’s stomach for approximately three hours.”

    Ewwwwwwwww…………

    .

  2. joho777

    Scientology is similar to Communism or the radical Muslims.

    If you leave the faith, they declare that you’re an apostate and put a contract out on you.

    Slightly different than how the Baptists act, don’t you think?

  3. Hubba hubba

    Xenu says “Shyut yourrrr piehole….

  4. nalexr

    THANK GOD someone is speaking out about this horrible CULT!

  5. Kelley

    Imagine a “religion” created by an ex-science fiction writer – L. Ron Hubbard. What a bunch of bullshit. Tom Cruise’s divorce from Nicole Kidman had everything, I think, to do with the fact that she chose to remain a Catholic and did not adopt the Scientology “faith.” Plus, her father is a psychiatrist … bad Nicole ! Not something I would choose to get into, although I have friends who are into it and they are constantly trying to suck others into it. Too weird for me.

  6. Anonymous

    lolz

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=IE&hl=en-GB&v=JCbKv9yiLiQ

    Hello, Scientology. We are Anonymous.

    Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of misinformation; suppression of dissent; your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye. With the leakage of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, the extent of your malign influence over those who trust you, who call you leader, has been made clear to us. Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed. For the good of your followers, for the good of mankind-for the laughs-we shall expel you from the Internet and systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form. We acknowledge you as a serious opponent, and we are prepared for a long, long campaign. You will not prevail forever against the angry masses of the body politic. Your methods, hypocrisy, and the artlessness of your organization have sounded its death knell.

    You cannot hide; we are everywhere.

    We cannot die; we are forever. We’re getting bigger every day-and solely by the force of our ideas, malicious and hostile as they often are. If you want another name for your opponent, then call us Legion, for we are many.

    Yet for all that we are not as monstrous as you are; still our methods are a parallel to your own. Doubtless you will use the Anon’s actions as an example of the persecution you have so long warned your followers would come; this is acceptable. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs.

    Gradually as we merge our pulse with that of your “Church”, the suppression of your followers will become increasingly difficult to maintain. Believers will wake, and see that salvation has no price. They will know that the stress, the frustration that they feel is not something that may be blamed upon Anonymous. No-they will see that it stems from a source far closer to each. Yes, we are SPs. But the sum of suppression we could ever muster is eclipsed by that of the RTC.

    Knowledge is free.

    We are Anonymous.

    We are Legion.

    We do not forgive.

    WE DO NOT FORGET.

    Expect us.

  7. Turd Ferguson

    All religions are cults you fucking idiots! Some are just older and so people are more accepting.

  8. lolz

    lolz…found this on youtube!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=IE&hl=en-GB&v=JCbKv9yiLiQ

    Hello, Scientology. We are Anonymous.

    Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of misinformation; suppression of dissent; your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye. With the leakage of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, the extent of your malign influence over those who trust you, who call you leader, has been made clear to us. Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed. For the good of your followers, for the good of mankind-for the laughs-we shall expel you from the Internet and systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form. We acknowledge you as a serious opponent, and we are prepared for a long, long campaign. You will not prevail forever against the angry masses of the body politic. Your methods, hypocrisy, and the artlessness of your organization have sounded its death knell.

    You cannot hide; we are everywhere.

    We cannot die; we are forever. We’re getting bigger every day-and solely by the force of our ideas, malicious and hostile as they often are. If you want another name for your opponent, then call us Legion, for we are many.

    Yet for all that we are not as monstrous as you are; still our methods are a parallel to your own. Doubtless you will use the Anon’s actions as an example of the persecution you have so long warned your followers would come; this is acceptable. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs.

    Gradually as we merge our pulse with that of your “Church”, the suppression of your followers will become increasingly difficult to maintain. Believers will wake, and see that salvation has no price. They will know that the stress, the frustration that they feel is not something that may be blamed upon Anonymous. No-they will see that it stems from a source far closer to each. Yes, we are SPs. But the sum of suppression we could ever muster is eclipsed by that of the RTC.

    Knowledge is free.

    We are Anonymous.

    We are Legion.

    We do not forgive.

    WE DO NOT FORGET.

    Expect us.

  9. Aliens control you

    My goal is to start a tax free cult just like these idiots. I need to come up with something more believable than Scientology, only a real moron would believe that crap.

  10. Bah, they are simply a money extorting mafia through religion, that makes the money extorting and mafia part, legal. The scapegoat being a science-fiction novelist. Quite brilliant and very profitable. I’m just sorry I didn’t think of it, before, so I could be rich.

    Now, any minute, I my house will be stormed upon by guys about 5ft tall, with a Mission Impossible theme playing loudly in the background.

  11. Randall Terry

    I wish more people would say the same about Christianity, the world’s larget (and one of the most pernicious) cult.

  12. stupidass

    wow, scientology is fucked up. there’s a news flash. let me take a minute to wrap my brain around this.

    at least we’re finally entering an era where it’s hip to bash scientology for the disturbing cult sham it is, instead of acting like it’s this mysterious important “religion”

  13. squeehunter

    A cult has a specific definition.

  14. squeehunter

    Wait, how did Christianity get into this? Mormonism is a whole different religion as far as the rest of us are concerned whether they like it or not.

  15. TekMoney

    Xenu can suck on a Super Massive Black Hole until the Supernova Gamma Ray bursts.

  16. Bob

    All religions are cults.
    As for the differences between Mormonism and Christianity; it’s like debating the differences between Chritianity, Catholicism, Protestantism, etc. – the differneces are entuirely surface differnces.

  17. Hank Rogers

    Bob: you are a dumbass. Take a comparative religions class and learn some shit.
    Scientology is a sham and a bad citizen because of what you have to do to live up to their “ideals”, QUITE the opposite of Catholicism and Christianity. Those two religions also have the benefit of being organized around a historical person that was renowned for his charity and compassion- two virtues that are in short supply of late.

  18. frankinSloth

    WHO THE FUCK IS PAUL HAGGIS?

  19. insecthero

    I love how he leaves for all the wrong reasons. He should be leaving because the so-called “religion” is a crackpot cult founded by a really shitty sci-fi writer…DUH.

  20. Bill

    @Hank Rogers:

    Catholicism and Christianity may be organized around a person who is a model of charity and compassion, but his churches have rarely acted with such notions at their heart. They also have “ideals” (your quotes, not mine) to live up to that some consider just as unreasonable as what Scientology requires.

    Hank: It is YOU who are the dumbass. Take a comparative religions class and learn “some shit”, to put it in your highly educated vernacular…

  21. Joe Smyth

    In Mormonism the thought is Man fell upwards with tempation/revelation of the serpent, in Christianity, Man fell downwards in the relationship to God. I tend to think downwards is the more realistic view. Corporately, we can be pretty awful. I tend to believe the end will come in relation to either a reasonable size nuke exchange or some kind of seized world government set-up involving the financial system & drastic restraints on freedom of info (Internet). Buckle up!

  22. stupidass

    OMG u guys

    Patrick Swayze – dead at 57

  23. Lloyd

    We landed on the moon? No way! That is awesome!

  24. MissyHash

    As a long time critic of Scientology, I am really please that Paul Haggis has not only left the cult — but done so publicly. Hopefully his criticisms will keep the cult and its pit bulls at bay, but also save some other people from joining this sham, money grabbing, alien-loving freak show.

  25. The Observer

    I just love how the only argument for supporting homosexual marriage is never anything but meaningless and mindless name-calling and slander.

    Until you can provide an actual argument as to why I should support something that is a perversion by definition, i’m just going to assume that you don’t have an argument at all and stick with the people that actually provide reasons to be against it.

  26. Old Nobodaddy

    @25 Let’s break down your argument, shall we?

    “I have plugged up my ears and blindfolded my eyes, and until someone shows me a movie under these conditions, they simply don’t exist.”

    If homosexuality is a “perversion by definition” of course you’ll never understand the arguments for allowing it. If I say, ‘everything you say is stupid,’ you’ll never convince me otherwise.

    But let’s look at the arguments against it– “It’s up to God to define marriage.” Well, there’s such a thing as Freedom of Religion in this country, and _your_ definition of God has no merit for anyone who isn’t you. So that argument is BS.

    Then there’s the “Male/Female marriage is what stabilizes society.” I love this argument, as it’s pure socialism. Society is more important than the Individual, the thinking goes, so we must keep Gay Marriage illegal. That’s Socialism right there, but the right-wing-nuts (who are all Commies at heart) are too stupid to realize it.

    I’m also wondering why the conservatives aren’t totally defending Scientology. It has everything they love: group-think, “traditional family values,” anyone who strays from the fold is villified. I guess the only thing Scientology lacks is an undying love for the Confederacy (along w/ it’s institutional racism).

  27. friendlystoner

    @25

    the fact that you call it a “perversion” means your too norrow minded to be able to accept any valid reason for it. you`ve clearly already made up your mind, so challenging people to provide reasons for you is a waste of time.

    you say that all the arguments for it are “meaningless and mindless name-calling and slander” which what you and the rest of the intolerent homophobic douches do.

    It doesnt affect you so why would you have a problem with it and unless your just being spitful and fascist.

  28. dude_on

    @25 – here is why I support homosexual marriage. Because I do not consider it any of my business what other people do as long as they do not negatively impact my own life. To this point no homosexual has ever negatively impacted my life, liberty or pursuit of happiness. Your perception of perversion is not now, nor will it ever be, relevant to anyone but yourself, including the source you utilize for defining your thoughts. Good luck with your stunted intellect and thanks for sharing. We simply do not get enough input from unsophisticated voices here at the fish.

  29. Octomom's Joh Fetish

    I agree with insecthero #19, This clown is leaving for the wrong reasons. And he acts as if he is surprised but just a cursory glance at Google could inform you that Scientologist believe Homosexuality is something that can (and therefore needs) to be cured. So old Haggis sittin in the temple all this time and he just now gets it about his Cult? Wow, kinda slow on the uptake there bag of guts, crumbs and liverspots,

  30. I am always stunned in view of the obvious brainwashing that must have happened to some internet posters (or rather the traveling circus of “commenters” when it comes to stirring up anti-Scientology resentment). Scientology has never been and is not against homosexuals and supports their rights just as anyone else’s. Given that, the big question is: why did Haggis bother to make such show-down out of his choice to sever his ties to the Church of Scientology (after several years of inactivity, as he admits)? Guesses, anyone?

  31. cracka ass

    Good for him. I still think Crash was a big piece of shit, but I admire him for publicly breaking free of this dangerous cult.

  32. All religion is rubbish. All of them, especially Scientology. Christianity is no different either. An immortal Jewish zombie that watches over everyone at all times? Give me a break. Get with the real world and stop believing in fairy tales. Either that, or commit to all of them, Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny included, because they’re all about as real as the Bible, or any other religious hokum.

    Cheers.

  33. Randal(l)

    Scientology is completely insane, but no more than any other religion. Christianity says all people came from Adam and Eve, so basically Christianity says we are all a product of generation after generation of brothers fucking their sisters and we are a species completely created through incest (The garden of Eden must have been in Alabama). Judaism believes you have to have the skin from your cock cut off to be allowed into their club. Mormons believe in Magical Underpants. There is no religion that doesn’t have it’s wacky beliefs so it’s really not fair to point the finger at another….Except for those fucking Hindu’s, Oooooh, look at me I have a third eye I painted on my forehead. I’m soooooo enlightened. what a bunch of jerks

    Randal(l)

  34. Randal(l)

    Also, I don’t come here for deep theological debate. I come here for Celebrity Gossip and Nipple slips. did you guys see that meranda kerrs ass earlier? I’ve still got a boner and I’ve jerked it like three and a half times

    Randal(l)

  35. Jibbly Biggins

    This guy doesn’t sound very smart.

    He supports talking to his wife’s parents, but does not question the very idea of “disconnecting” from anyone who criticizes Scientology?

    He doesn’t give a crap about the whole Xenu soap opera but “a weak and carefully worded press release” denying involvement in a gay marriage bill is enough to send him over the edge?

    How about “you’re selling me bullshit, I want my money back?” (Scientology has yearly dues)

  36. Nerd

    I agree with 32. Crash WAS terrible. A big sopping pile of terrible that was as derivative and pointless as a Michael Bay movie. You’re a racist! No, you’re a racist! NO, you are! Can we all just agree we are racists? That’s racist to say!

    Ugh…awful.

    Scientology should cattle prod him just for making that movie. Racist!

  37. When is Scientology – The Game, coming?

  38. JPRichardson

    Scientology sucks. You really need to be retarded to join something like that….

  39. Rough intentions

    That dude wrote some good movies. I was about to care till I realize I dont care about neither subject matter…

  40. Craig

    @#31

    Louanne, honey, if scientology were supportive of gay rights, they would have been publicly AGAINST Proposition 8, not publicly SUPPORTIVE of it. See, supporting a law to deny gay people the same rights as everyone else is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of supporting “their rights just as anyone else’s.” See, in order for it to be “just as anyone else’s” they would have to have the SAME rights. That’s what “just as anyone else’s” means.

    As far as the “church’s” stance towards gay people, L. Ron Hubbard is on record as being anti-gay, and the “church’s” policies reflect this. Also, as far as being “brainwashed” into hating scientology: did you have Irony Flakes for breakfast this morning?

  41. Justin

    That’s great. Now go join a cult that will brainwash you into not making shitty movies anymore. Crash sucked, you’re a hack, but I have tiny little sliver of resepct for you today. I’m sure you’ll shit all over it the next time you make a Big Important Film with Lots of Issues. But for now, we’re cool.

  42. Bits & pieces

    33 & 34: Or, you can keep you head up your arse & be a useless pimple all your life- it takes just as much faith to try & opt out like you’re some genius above it all…Anyway, we’re all dead people walking…cheers!

  43. Dixy

    It’s not a church. I’d call every follower a nutbag, but that would be insulting bags that contain nuts.

  44. Its a great article and good one.

  45. I remember seeing commercials for dianetics while watching wrestling on the usa network back in the 80′s.

  46. Sol

    Paul Haggis seems to have a twisted sense of morality; his wife cuts out her parents for a year (good people by his reckoning so fair to say he liked them) but he does not renounce the Church of Scientology until the homophobia of it is obvious? He said somethings agreeable to most people but he may be telling himself a lie about why he did it.

  47. OTP

    Scientology is such a fucking stupid cult. I always wonder why seemingly intelligent people get caught up in a “religion” that was created on a bet by L. Ron Hubbard in the 50s…

  48. Darth

    There’s already something wrong with a religion when it works like drug.

  49. I hated this guy in Matrix!

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