Every Single Lawsuit From Elmo’s Accusers Has Been Thrown Out of Court

April 23rd, 2014 // 87 Comments
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Kevin Clash was a young black man from the projects of Baltimore who only had one dream: To work in children’s television like his hero Captain Kangaroo. Through hard work, dedication and talent, he found himself working for Sesame Street Workshop and soon turned a puppet nobody knew what to do with into the most popular children’s character of our generation. A character that to any child from almost as soon as they can see until three-years-old is like staring into the face of God every single morning on their television screens. But then in 2012, the world learned what only a few of Kevin’s close friends and colleagues knew: He’s gay. But instead of finding out from an inspiring coming out story, they learned from one Sheldon Stephens who claimed he had an underage relationship with Kevin. While this turned out to be bullshit, Kevin made the unfortunate mistake of paying Sheldon to publicly state his accusations were false instead of just disappearing into the woodwork after his lawyer quit leaving this story up in the air. This prompted three other accusers to come forward after suddenly remembering they had underage sex with Kevin, too, despite repeatedly changing their stories to okay, there wasn’t sex, and lying about their ages. But the damage was already done, so to protect the beloved company that had helped realize his dreams, Kevin resigned from Sesame Workshop so he could settle these matters in court without tarnishing Sesame Street. And settle them he fucking did. Not only were all three lawsuits thrown out of court, but Radar reports that they’ve now been dismissed by the United States Court of Appeals:

The Court of Appeals argued the alleged victims “failed to provide any reason why [they] were unable to discover their injuries prior to 2012,” court documents state.
The Court of Appeals found the arguments to be “without merit,” affirming the New York judge’s previous decision to dismiss all three suits.

Sadly, in 2014, the Eloi conventional wisdom is that someone like Kevin Clash shouldn’t be working in children’s television because he’s privately attracted to young, legal gay men instead of young, legal women. Which surprisingly a lot of people who read this site felt even though I doubt their interactions with kids involve talking about the intimate details of their sexual kinks because nobody fucking does that. If they did, we’d all be explaining to kindergartners why we can draw Ireland Baldwin‘s butthole from memory. “You see, Timmy, when grown ups get bored at work, they sometimes like to look at famous people’s colons. You know what a colon is, right? It’s where your poop comes from.” Sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it? Then shut your fucking traps and let Kevin Clash go back to work.

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  1. Garrett

    Cool story… How about poking fun at Bieber for making an international idiot out of himself again, instead of writing 800 words on something that got your liberal skirt in a knot though? Good grief.

    • Hey Now

      What the hell does this have to do with politics, liberal or conservative?

    • JC

      I don’t think being pissed that a talented dude lost his career because he was wrongly accused of something is somehow a “liberal” issue. Unless you’re retarded.

    • Hi Convex. We can always rely on you to pop up on posts like these to talk down to liberals.

      • Oh BABY

        Hi dumb shit. I’m Convex, not Garrett. I’m flattered that I’ve made such an impression on you that you still remember me to give me shout outs; that says so much more about you than it does me.

        Your error is a symptom of your stupidity; you’re one of those retarded liberals who doesn’t bother (or isn’t smart enough) to really understand what someone with an opposing view has to say; you just lump us all together, which is why we talk down to you. You’re just that clueless.

        Garrett is right. But you’ll also see, below, where I said that if there is no evidence, lawsuits should not be allowed. “He said she said” has no place in a court of law, and prosecution based on allegations with no supporting evidence is no better than a kangaroo court.

        It’s too bad you’re such a mindless, pathetic douche, else you’d see that making generalizations is a bitch move, loser.

      • A Captain Kangaroo Court.

        Mister Green Jeans can be the bailiff.

      • Mr. Moose would have been the executioner, but the Supreme Court ruled that death by falling ping-pong balls to be cruel and unusual punishment, in addition to being wildly ineffective.

      • “Your error is a symptom of your stupidity; you’re one of those retarded liberals who doesn’t bother (or isn’t smart enough) to really understand what someone with an opposing view has to say; you just lump us all together, which is why we talk down to you. You’re just that clueless.”

        I know what I’m getting Oh BABY for his birthday now: self-awareness.

      • I don’t even have to reply. He owns himself.

      • Everything you write makes you look more stupid than the last thing you wrote. You’re a very, very stupid person so I’ll give you a piece of advice you’re probably not clever enough to understand: stop writing things here. Go back to Free Republic and Newsmax and WorldNetDaily, where people like you seem moderately intelligent by comparison. When you’re out among normal people, your stupidity really stands out. With your fellow troglodytes, you look much better.

      • Harriscandoit

        Can you really blame him for confusing the two of you? I mean you both sound like inbred hillbillys.

      • Yes, it’s quite the flattering impression:

        “You guys remember that batshit insane Teabagger who always had his tampon in an uproar because Fish was too liberal, but refused to go away because his diseased brain somehow thought The Superficial was the only source of titties on the entire internet?”

        “Aw, yeah. That guy was a twat.”

      • Threads like this make me miss schmitler.

      • This whole post makes me miss schmidtler, because no one was more gung-ho than he about crucifying Kevin Clash—for being gay and for working for socialist PBS, and probably for being black, too, because you remember how schmidtler loved him the right to say the n-word.

      • …remember back when ‘true lies’ first came out, and there was that one middle-eastern group who made a huge public stink about the portrayal of middle-easterners as murderous terrorists, and their response was to make death threats against schwarzenegger and the filmmakers? yeah, convex just did that… irony so thick you can cut it with a butter-knife.

    • I bet Garrett is great fun to be around. Everyone loves the guy that can turn anything into a political statement.

      “Hey can you grab me a beer while you’re in there Garrettt?”
      “BOOTSTRAPS! SELF-RELIANCE! GET IT YOURSELF LIBTARDS!”

    • Hopalong Cassidy

      Garrett is clearly an imbicile. It’s only a political issue if you have a problem with Clash being gay. And you’re from the South.

  2. meme

    This guy should sue the pants off everyone who accused me and the people who proclaimed him guilty. Fucking with a man’s reputation like that.

  3. But they won’t shut their fucking traps, Fish. Even though he did not commit the crimes his accusers claimed, to the ultra religious right and the loudmouthed, close-minded Republicunts, he is guilty. Of being gay. These “Christians” will shout from their highest false steeples that being gay also means you are a pedophile. Advertisers and the world wide marketing juggernaut that is Sesame Street will bend to them far too easily and, sadly, Kevin Clash cannot possibly animate Elmo, ever again.

    • …exactly …it’s sad, but it’s one of the shittiest parts of human nature: once that accusation is out there, it becomes like a stain you can never fully wash out, not matter how innocent you’re proved to be (what’s that old joke; “but fart ONE time”) …the fact that he’s gay just makes the persecution easier, and more “understandable”.

  4. Situations like this reinforce my staement about America being a “guilty until proven innocent and guilty even after that” society for men falsely accused of sexual crimes.

    I hope Clash finds some way to bounce back from this. It seems next impossible, though.

  5. ThisWillHurt

    So, when asked why they waited until 2012 to discover their injuries, the response “because I just found out he has money and I want some” doesn’t fly in court? Sounds like injustice to me.

  6. Jake2

    LOL… “an inspiring coming out story”.

  7. This is in no way a reflection on Clash, but I am sure glad that our Sesame Street phase is over at my house. Lego ninjas are much easier to deal with from the adult perspective.

  8. Oh BABY

    No one should be sued if there is no corresponding evidence, just as no one should be prosecuted, years later, for a crime there is no evidence to support was ever committed.

    This applies to a gay black puppeteer as well as priests and Hollywood directors.

    No evidence = no court.

    • Are you really going to use priests as one of your examples of an injustice being done to someone? That’s just willful ignorance at this point. You’re like a caricature of the extreme right wing. You should be the mean land owner in an 80′s comedy where the kids try to save the summer camp that you want to sell to developers. I bet real conservatives feel they have to apologize for you when you speak. You’re the red state version of Janeane Garofalo.

    • “No one should be sued if there is no corresponding evidence” is like writing that good things should happen to good people.

      Yes, it’s true, but so banal as to be meaningless and unworthy of attention.

      Rather like yourself.

    • Harriscandoit

      In principle you are bang in. Unfortunately rape cases can’t work like that because 90% of the time the evidence is hearsay. The witness is usually the person suing, and it’s proven that legitimate victims do take a while to accuse the person that abused them. (which means very little evidence for the most part). These cases are next to impossible to write a rule book for unfortunately.

    • …fuck the catholic church, woody allen, and roman polanski.
      BTW: you are what you defend.

  9. In other words, Elmo is as innocent as Woody Allen.

    Certainly less creepy, even when fisting a puppet.

    • Woody Allen never went to trial. Clash went to trial and all charges were dismissed. Kind of a big difference there.

      • And why didn’t Woody go to trial? Something about lack of evidence? That was also a criminal thing, rather than this civil thing that Elmo deals with.

        Either way, I don’t see any good reason to declare one guy’s story is bullshit and other is truth.

        Most of you dumbfucks are too busy celebrating gays and blacks to apply rational thought anyway. Bring the downward pointing thumbs.

      • Mike Walker

        Clash didn’t go to trial. The charges were dismissed because of the SOL expiry.

  10. celebsloveme

    I am so glad to read this. I loved Sesame Street growing up and so did my kids and when Being Elmo came out, we watched it together and cried, we loved Kevin’s story so much. When the accusations against him began surfacing I felt sick simply because I knew that whether they were true or not, the damage to his life/career/reputation was irrevocably done. I hope he can return to work and doing what he loves and that people rally around him in support.

  11. The injustice is that his career was derailed by allegations which were held by the court to be untrue but in the court of public opinion people had already cast him as the villain. It may take years to wash the taint of scandalous allegations but I hope he still tries to reclaim what he has lost.

    • Mike Walker

      The court only found that the statute of limitations had expired and threw out the charges, not whether they were true or not. The subsequent claims may have been some or all cash grabs, but the first guy was paid off (an “unfortunate mistake” according to fish – lol) which is as convincing as a guilty verdict.

  12. I’ve always believed that the same thing happened to The Frugal Gourmet, Jeff Smith. He was accused of molesting boys, but I’m pretty sure he was just gay and basically got extorted so as not to be publicly outed. Fun fact: Elmo made a few guest appearances on The Frugal Gourmet.

  13. just say'n

    Maybe the Courts didn’t find enough evidence to bring the complaints to trial; but ask yourself this: would you let your child hang around him?

    • Your brother’s an only child, isn’t he?

    • I’d be more inclined to let my kids [if I had any] hang around Mr Clash than hang around a dateless loser. Such as yourself.

    • This morning I posted that there are a whole lotta fucktard morons who equate being gay with being a pedophile. Thank you for stepping up to prove my point.

      • Mike Walker

        No, dumbfuck, it’s whether a 50 year old chickenhawk who prowls chat lines for teen boys has a higher probability of dipping a litle lower than the legal limit for fuck partners. It doesn’t mean he would fuck a 10 year old but I sure as hell wouldn’t want my teenage son around him.

      • Does that mean we need to keep an eye on our daughters around you? Because you know straight guys are just a powder keg of teenfucking waiting to happen.

      • Mike Walker

        If I was hanging out on chatlines and meeting up for fuck sessions, yes. You guys are struggling to defend this creep, for some reason. Misguided ideological defensiveness or NAMBLA lobbyists?

      • Yeah, because no one who didn’t meet Clash on a gay chat line they were on of their own accord has ever brought suit against him, so of course no kids in his immediate vicinity are safe, amirite? Tell your teenage son to get off of gay chat lines if he’s underage and you can sleep at night. While you’re at it, be sure to keep your daughters off of Twitter, because using your dumbfuck “logic”, clearly James Franco has a higher probability of dipping lower than legal age and throwing a fuck at a few 10 year olds.

      • Mike Walker

        >so of course no kids in his immediate vicinity are safe, amirite?

        Enough of the lame strawmen, nobody thinks he’s going to be humping everything in sight. Anyone fucking underage boys shouldn’t be on a kids show where he travels around holding workshops and mentoring teenage puppeteers. Pull the ideological blinders off and use some common sense.

        >Tell your teenage son to get off of gay chat lines if he’s
        >underage and you can sleep at night.

        Yes, and I’ll tell my daughter to stop wearing revealing clothing as well. Nice victim blaming. How about we tell Elmo to stop cornholing underage boys with his meat puppet and juicing them up with crystal meth? The least we can do is not have taxpayers funding his sordid habits.

        >While you’re at it, be sure to keep your daughters off of Twitter,
        >because using your dumbfuck “logic”, clearly James Franco
        >has a higher probability of dipping lower than legal age and
        >throwing a fuck at a few 10 year olds.

        We only know of one occurance with Franco, so that might not be representative of his usual age range, but I probably wouldn’t trust him around my 16-17yr old daughter either. It’s pretty “dumbfuck logic” to think that she has to stay off Twitter, however.

      • Well really, which is it? According to you, Clash is either targeting 10 year olds or he isn’t – make up your feeble mind. He may like them young – but as long as they’re able to legally consent it’s none of my business, nor should it be yours. Nor should it have any bearing on his job when it comes to “mentoring teenage puppeteers” or anything else, unless you have a very sordid imagination when it comes to what “mentoring” means. Clash’s accuser claimed he contacted him through a gay chat line – my point is that Stephens made himself available online of his own accord, no one forced him into it, so if your son wasn’t a minor and didn’t haunt gay chat lines, apparently you have nothing to worry about. It’s interesting that you choose to see that as “victim blaming” rather than consenting adults participating in an online venue – it’s not liked he targeted him out of the blue and knocked on Stephens’s door apropos of nothing. Which is why the remark that, based on your “dumbfuck logic”, it wasn’t advisable for your daughter to be on Twitter with James Franco out there. That one clearly went right over your head, but then I’m sure that happens on a regular basis.

        The least we can do is not have taxpayers funding his sordid habits.

        Ah, the timeworn “your tax dollars at work supporting ‘sordid habits’” [Read: we won't pay for people to be gay] argument. Since no one has yet to claim that any abuses were attached to Sesame Street itself, this is a major fucking stretch. Clash received a salary for his work – what he does, or did, with it afterwards has no bearing on anything here, but nice try. And since his accuser Sheldon Stephens is currently in state prison because as a state intern he diverted retirement pension funds to his bank account, I think you’d be advised to leave the “public funding of sordid habits” bleat at home – the ones you seem to think are “fact” have yet to be proven, while Clash’s accuser has already been convicted of 3 counts of theft, which is more than a “sordid habit” IMO. And since this was a criminal offense and he has yet to make restitution for the $4K+ that he stole from two retired state employees, the taxpayers of PA are still paying in numerous ways for his “internship”.

      • Mike Walker

        >Well really, which is it? According to you, Clash is either targeting
        >10 year olds or he isn’t – make up your feeble mind. He may like them
        >young – but as long as they’re able to legally consent it’s none of my
        >business, nor should it be yours. Nor should it have any bearing on his
        >job when it comes to “mentoring teenage puppeteers”

        I didn’t claim he was targeting 10 year olds nor is there any reason to think that they have to be either 10yr olds or of legal age – there’s 8 years in between. His accusers claim they were ~16 which is lower than the age of consent so it is your business. If it was a 50 year old man meeting teen girls online for sex and drugs, would you hire him for any job where he was around teen girls? Please. Quit hiding behind the minutiae and look at the big picture.

        >Clash’s accuser claimed he contacted him through a gay chat line –
        >my point is that Stephens made himself available online of his own accord,

        Stephens actually met him at a charity event and was told by Kevin he would “introduce him to prominent industry representatives”. They communicated over a period of ~6 months by phone, email and video chats before they had sex. He wasn’t forced into a friendship with Clash but he was lured with promises that amounted to nothing and eventually seduced. One could argue that the innate power differential between an accomplished adult man like Clash and a teenager precludes any consensual sexual relationship. Statutory rape laws are based on this concept. In his own words:

        “I knew it was wrong, but I also felt like I was growing up and they were very smart about it. I can’t even really explain it. I always felt it was creepy. I always felt it was wrong. But I stayed. I wasn’t raped. I just told myself it was OK so I would not be constantly depressed or confused.”

        Sounds more like a confused kid than a legal adult acting of his own volition.

        >it wasn’t advisable for your daughter to be on Twitter with James
        >Franco out there. That one clearly went right over your head

        The fact that you think using a general communications network like Twitter is anyway comparable to a gay pickup line makes it clear whose head it’s going over.

        >Ah, the timeworn “your tax dollars at work supporting ‘sordid habits’”
        >[Read: we won't pay for people to be gay]

        No, chickenhawks in their 40s who lure teenage boys into sexual relationships with empty promises and drugs. Weak. I’m surprised you didn’t pull a “fish” and claim it was because he was black. I won’t respond to your continued victim shaming, but it’s worth noting that sexual abuse can often lead to such criminal behaviour by victims, so it can support his case as much as detract from it.

  14. Legal Beagle

    The Court did not say that the alleged underage sex didn’t occur. They just found that they waited too long to make the claim. There is a big difference. I have no idea whether the claims are true or not, but don’t equate dismissal of these lawsuits as a vindication of his conduct.

    • Ummm, no. The court found the claims to be baseless and very likely suspect. That’s not a ruling based on a filing technicality. That’s a judge saying these people were only interested in making a quick buck.

      • Mike Walker

        > not a ruling based on a filing technicality

        It was. It was all about whether the SOL date should be extended, but they couldn’t provide evidence of trauma resulting from the claimed “abuse” so it was rejected.

      • Mike do you understand what words mean? How sentences are put together? See the words that you strung together make it sound like….ah fuck it. I’m off to steal a picnic basket.

      • Mike Walker

        SOL is a filing technicality, as in “filed too late”.

        I don’t necessarilly think the kid was traumatized or suffered any psychological damage; I just believe that Elmo was fucking him when he was underage. The payoff is ample evidence of that.

      • I just ran all this by an owl (they are just super smart). The owl kept looking at this post you made:

        “it was all about whether the SOL date should be extended, but they couldn’t provide evidence of trauma resulting from the claimed “abuse” so it was rejected.”

        Then the owl kept asking me why you kept saying it was SOL when even your own explanation made the point that it was a bullshit lawsuit. “Now you know why I applied to be a bear, Owl. Look how dumb people are.”

      • Mike Walker

        >why you kept saying it was SOL when even your own
        >explanation made the point that it was a bullshit lawsuit.

        Because it *was* thrown out on SOL grounds. It was their appeal for extended SOL that was judged to be without merit, not the overall case. As mentioned below, they appealed based on “delayed discovery” so they had to give evidence of why they couldn’t/didn’t make the claims before 2012. This doesn’t mean that they didn’t suffer any psychological effects, just that they didn’t convince the court that it was enough to explain the delay in reporting the abuse. I’m not sure how you can prove justification for not reporting sexual abuse. In any case, dismissal doesn’t mean the abuse/underage sex didn’t happen, and the original accuser Sheldon Stephens (the one he paid off) is still suing him, so he’s not in the clear yet.

        Ya know Phil, your defense of this POS is amusing in light of your defense of Bryan Singer’s accuser last week. It’s quite a contrast. In fact, the contradiction is downright hilarious. You and justifiable should apply your specious excuses for his delayed charges to this case.

      • Again, get it right.

        They weren’t trying for “extended SOL” because there’s no such thing, except in your mind. The motion was for delayed discovery so that the SOL would actually start from 2012, the supposed date that they became aware of the damage resulting from said event, rather than from the date of the alleged assault itself.

        It wasn’t that they “didn’t convince the court that it was enough to explain the delay in reporting the abuse” – the appellate court found they failed to provide ANY reason why they were unable to discover any injuries prior to 2012. It had nothing to do with “not reporting sexual abuse”, they were unable to produce any records of treatment, or therapy dealing with any psychological issues, or even any prior complaints – to anyone – that Clash had abused them. All these would be indicative of psychological distress that remained undiscovered prior to 2012; the court found that they failed to provide any basis that they exercised ‘due diligence’ in uncovering their injuries, and since psychological harm was the basis for their legal injury case, “discovery cannot apply”.

        Sheldon Stephens did file federal and state claims in Pennsylvania against Clash after his recantation of his NY charges. The federal claim was dismissed since he waited a year too long to file, and a motion to dismiss the claim based on state law is pending. In the meantime, Sheldon is in Dauphin County Prison where he’ll be serving a 5 year “intermediate punishment” sentence for three counts of theft. His internship with the Public School Employee’s Retirement Fund in 2011 gave him access to account information, which he used to divert checks sent to two pensioners to his bank account.

        This isn’t the first “internship” that Stephens has had trouble with – the one he was fired from in 2009 in Beverly Hills resulted in his being charged with stealing $25,000 worth of jewelry at knifepoint from his former boss.

      • And as for the “contradiction” you find so hilarious, ask yourself why you assume that everyone thinks that all accusations of sexual abuse should be instantly believed, rather than considered on the merits as far as we know them? The “defense” you seem to think Phil and I somehow put forth for Singer’s accuser consisted of precisely stating that not all victims deal with abuse in a timely manner, and that this delay shouldn’t make Singer’s accuser any less credible than any other plaintiff who reported immediately. It also doesn’t add anything to the veracity of the complaint, either. Other people also made the same point – it’s not something that’s unknown. Any other construct or interpretation you put in that is your own – but the fact that you seem to think we must have an agenda to support all sexual abuse charges if they happen to be against gay men based on those comments, and that we’re now being some sort of hypocrites tells far more about your own particular petty mindset and your paucity of reasoning ability than it does about our supposed “specious excuses”.

        Seriously, Mike, DO you understand that words have meaning, and you can’t just put them down in random order and expect coherency?

    • Get it right – the first NY judge found they’d waited too long to file, the SOL had expired. NY’s latest 2006 statute provides that actions for civil damages for sexual crimes, including sexual abuse of a minor, may be brought within 5 years of the offense. The plaintiffs appealed on “delayed discovery” grounds, stating that the SOL should start from 2012, i.e. when they claim to have first discovered the psychological damage due to the alleged sexual assaults. The appellate court found they “failed to provide any reason why [they] were unable to discover their injuries prior to 2012″.

      One of the reasons so many SOLs have been amended in the past decade is due to compelling arguments of delayed discovery put forth by minor victims of sexual abuse – in many states the SOL now doesn’t even start until they obtain majority. Therapy or other treatment records and prior allegations involving the same perpetrator are important considerations; so for the Court of Appeals to rule as they did, using the language that they did, is fairly telling as to the veracity of the argument made. It wasn’t “insufficient evidence”, it was “failed to provide any reason”.

  15. ManWhoHasSeenAVagina

    Elmo came into existence way after my time, and I only became aware of the character via my significantly younger cousins and the media hype surrounding Tickle-Me-Elmo (which, you have to admit, sounds provocative). I caught the documentary on Netflix, but found it pretty boring. I never had anything against Clash, nor begrudged him his success, and was glad he was making kids happy and seemingly being a nice dude.

    Then the allegations came out and I said, “Yeah, sounds about right.”

    When you are a grown man who spends his days playing with children, gay or straight, you have to know that you’re already a little bit suspect.

    The guy may not be guilty of banging underage boys (although, maybe he is, we don’t really know), but he is guilty of piss poor public image management. In his chosen career, part of his job is to maintain a squeaky clean image that is beyond reproach. Phase one in that task is to not be in a situation where you could be accused (don’t spend time alone with young boys/girls without a third party present). Phase two is handling allegations smoothly. It appears he dropped the ball on both phases, and he paid the price. People looking for a payday and false accusations are nothing new. He should have known better.

    Let this serve as a lesson. You have to fiercely protect your public image if you are going to make a career out of being a public figure. Especially when your career revolves around children. Unless you’re a Republican, in which case you can be all about “family values”, but still have hookers put diapers on you before having sex and then get re-elected.

    • When you are a grown man who spends his days playing with children, gay or straight, you have to know that you’re already a little bit suspect.

      Good thing to know we should always have given Mr. Rogers, Bob Keeshan, Jim Henson and any woman who hosted the local Romper Room back in the day the side-eye because they were instantly suspect due to an unhealthy desire to “play with children” all day. Oh wait, they weren’t gay, so never mind.

      Silly me, I thought that what you did in your private life with consenting adults shouldn’t affect your chosen profession, but then again, most people who work in children’s TV aren’t characterized as “spend[ing] their days playing with children” unless it’s by morons like you who immediately leap to “sounds about right” because you can’t discern any difference.

  16. So basically, this guy’s life and career are ruined because some homophobic douche canoes wanted his money. Nice.
    I hope he can find a way to turn the tide of public opinion and get back to doing the work he loves.
    People suck.

  17. I’m not going to spend an hour reading all this, so I’ll just assume there’s an even mix of homophobia, racism, conservative angst, liberal guilt, one guy who seems to be commenting on a completely different issue…but isn’t, and a handful of misanthropic hate filled bastards who are just taking the opportunity to say horrible things about someone who never did anything but try to make kids happy.

    For all the latter, cheers buds!

  18. There’s nothing like watching a bunch of homosexuals get their claws out acting all sanctimonious, yawn. By most of your logic, Michael Jackson was misunderstood. The rule still applies, never trust a fag with a pencil mustache.

  19. Shia LaBeouf

    did you guys even read the weide article?

  20. mary

    umm, you people were the ones condemning Clash for his actions before this came around.
    Also, it was his former boyfriends and Clash’s actions and reactions that ruined his career, not the Religious Right.

    I know they are not popular here, but not everything is destroyed by Republicans. And praising a chickenhawk just because he is black is stupid.
    And where was Sesame St in all this? Why didn’t they help him out? He made them millions with that red puppet. You would think they would have gotten top notch PR people to help him.

  21. Jenn

    Poor Elmo’s fister, tried and found guilty in the court of public opinion. You can’t take that shit back either. They’ll always think Kevin did it and got away with it.

    I wonder about Singer as well, he’s going through this right now. Whether he’s guilty or not, people will look at him differently.

  22. I'm Scout and I need a bra.

    The guys career is destroyed, but he only has himself to blame. Yes, I do know the difference between homosexual and pedophile, but, with that being stated, why in the fuck was this guy hanging out with these people of questionable character, especially with the position he was in. He may not have been a pedo, but he did like ‘em young. Just goes to show, never trust anyone UNDER thirty.

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