Research on genetics

[Jackie]

Do you feel that this should be a priority
If so, why or why not

What do you feel should be more of a priority than it (I know there are many things that could be/should be considered more of a priority than it)

Background info: I belive that..

they've sequenced the entire human genome but been unable to identify all the genes in it

There's more to genetics than the human genome though...

apparently you can also make hybrid genes/proteins

[iambatman]

Yes, but to a certain extent. We wouldn't want gattaca to become real. Scientist need to follow morals and ethics in this feild.

[MrHouse]

What's more to genetics than genes?

[Jackie]

I meant that there's more than just human genes...because there's plant genes and animal genes and hybrid genes/proteins could be created..and of course there's the genes of other species that could evolve and/or have existed previously like for example dinosaurs...

We're already using gene therapy to help with things like cancer though right?

Anyways I just thought about morality and ethics and I guess I have this to say: They have, and probably always will, vary from society to society, and from individual to individual.

I guess what I would have to say on the morality and ethics of genetic experimentation would depend on the experiments themselves

[Jackie]

I didnt say that there was more to genetics than genes...

I said that there was more to genetics than human genes

(I edited the above post)

[iambatman]

I don't know honestly a part of me wants to say "Screw morals and ethics because the research might pay off a lot in the long term even if it won't very much in the short term due to moral and ethical problems" But another part of me wants to say that we shouldn't do anything that would endanger the life or sanity of anyone.


Watch Gattaca, really. Go to blockbuster and rent it. You will discover what happens when morals and ethics are disregarded.

[Jackie]

But who are we to say exactly what is moral and what is ethical

Opinions on that could drastically change in the future. People disagree about what is moral and ethical now..about things like abortion, etc

I mean what is moral and what is ethical is basically defined by what our opinions are..

[MrHouse]

Then don't ask our opinion about it.

[RodeoHK]

People don't mind human genes being crossed with other human genes, or animal genes being crossed with animal genes etc

It's only when things start going hybrid (animal genes with human genes) then the public kicks up a ruckus about it. I can't think of any specific examples ATM.

[Jackie]

I was asking a question, not stating that I didn't want to hear people's opinions. I do want to hear other people's opinions on this

But anyways I think there's more than one issue here-

There's the issue of obtaining the knowledge in the first place- and the morals and ethics involved with that- which was what I was referring to-

And the issue of USING the knowledge in a responsible way which is really another issue entirely

[MrHouse]

I think you try too hard to look intelligent.

[RodeoHK]

I think you try too hard to look intelligent.

*shakes head*

[The Mighty Quinn]

LOUD NOISES

[Smegma]

LOUD NOISES


Hahahahahha, I don't even know what you mean and I still think it's the best post of this thread.


(Although Mr. House's seems to be pretty spot on too).

[Jackie]

I'm just bored, that's all.

And obviously I'm not that intelligent, considering how bad the last four or so years (High school) have gone. Or maybe I was just unlucky..either way

Anyways whatever, I'm more interested in orgasms right now than I am in looking intelligent.

(And BTW I think there's other posters on this board who maybe try a little too hard to look intelligent.)

[MrHouse]

School has nothing to do with intelligence.

[Jackie]

It wasn't just school that went badly..school didn't even go that badly...

Things like relationships, family problems, and my best friend's move away were what went badly..

Anyways I have some stuff I should do so I'll go..

(And also it could be argued that schools do affect intelligence levels :p)

[MrHouse]

I'm not a therapist.

[Jackie]

Well, considering that you have a sig that has a picture of a guy beating what appears to be a dead horse and posted an animation of a girl blowing her brains out through the back window of a car..

I honestly didn't think you were

[Smegma]

I'm not a therapist.

And the world is worse off for the fact.

[Jackie]

You mean the world would be better if he was a therapist? I didn't say it wouldn't be, just that I hadn't thought he was one

[MrHouse]

My therapy is the best there is: truth.

But people don't want truth, they want someone to blame.

[The Mighty Quinn]

I had a therapist once. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

[Jackie]

I didn't say I was blaming anyone

I did blame people for awhile and then I just realized that things happen and the fact that they do isn't always somebody's fault...and the stuff that happened wasn't really anybody's fault, it was just stuff that happened

[Jackie]

were you speaking literally, or metaphorically? But anyways I have sort of favored chocolate-covered defrosted raspberries recently, I suppose. They're a bit of an addiction; but I don't think they are just because I'm bored, since my friend in Texas said that chocolate-covered strawberries was the only food he ever got sick from eating too much of

[Jackie]

Meh, I guess I'm doing pretty badly since I appear to have imagined that somebody wrote a post which said "Eating your trouble away again?" Fuck...well I should probably stop being an insomniac if I don't want to hallucinate

[The Mighty Quinn]

were you speaking literally, or metaphorically? But anyways I have sort of favored chocolate-covered defrosted raspberries recently, I suppose. They're a bit of an addiction; but I don't think they are just because I'm bored, since my friend in Texas said that chocolate-covered strawberries was the only food he ever got sick from eating too much of

you should try and crack. NOW THAT, you can never have too much of

[Jackie]

Did you mean you should try crack, or try and crack?

[MrHouse]

Meh, I guess I'm doing pretty badly since I appear to have imagined that somebody wrote a post which said "Eating your trouble away again?" Fuck...well I should probably stop being an insomniac if I don't want to hallucinate

That was me. But you posted before so it didn't work.

[Jackie]

Are you saying that you think I'm fat? At least I don't starve myself when I'm depressed like my friend did...although I think that was because she was anorexic

(what exactly were you referring to when you said something about posting before?)

I don't think I posted about food before you posted that...because I posted about food since I SAW that post

[The Mighty Quinn]

Did you mean you should try crack, or try and crack?

A little from column A, a lil from column B

[Jackie]

Are you saying that I should try and have a nervous breakdown?

[The Mighty Quinn]

Are you saying that I should try and have a nervous breakdown?

...while on crack.

[MrHouse]

Are you saying that you think I'm fat? At least I don't starve myself when I'm depressed like my friend did...although I think that was because she was anorexic

(what exactly were you referring to when you said something about posting before?)

I don't think I posted about food before you posted that...because I posted about food since I SAW that post

I was answering Quinn's post?

[Jackie]

Because nervous breakdowns are BETTER when you're on crack? Or because crack can be lethal? Or because the nervous breakdown would then, possibly, look more interesting to others? (AKA Lindsay Lohan)

[RodeoHK]

Because nervous breakdowns are BETTER when you're on crack? Or because crack can be lethal? Or because the nervous breakdown would then, possibly, look more interesting to others? (AKA Lindsay Lohan)

He was joking.

Er...right?

[MrHouse]

Because nervous breakdowns are BETTER when you're on crack? Or because crack can be lethal? Or because the nervous breakdown would then, possibly, look more interesting to others? (AKA Lindsay Lohan)

Can't you decide anything on your own?

[The Mighty Quinn]

Because nervous breakdowns are BETTER when you're on crack? Or because crack can be lethal? Or because the nervous breakdown would then, possibly, look more interesting to others? (AKA Lindsay Lohan)

I would find you more interesting if you were on crack

[Jackie]

Yah I guess I'm boring

BUT I JUST MAJORLY CHEERED UP! So as long as this thing that I got cheered up about it doesn't get badly I'm good

PS- I'll try not to be boring :/

[Jackie]

You might find this mildly interesting, if somewhat disturbing:

I was so mad at the human species for awhile that I was like, If I got the chance to I would SO give everyone genital-eating disease if that was a close cousin if flesh-eating disease..

But then I stopped being mad at the human species partly because I decided that I wanted experiences, whether they were good or bad

[Jackie]

It won't let me edit posts but anyways yah I guess I'm boring sorry :/

I really am planning to go out and do stuff....like learning musical instruments and visiting other countries etc...

It's just that I'm so focused on this one thing right now that I'm kind of delaying all that other stuff, but I can't be focused on this one thing constantly

okay that may not have made that much sense to someone without OCD/ADD

[MrHouse]

It doesn't make any sense to anyone but you.

[Jackie]

Well I wasn't serious about the genital-eating disease thing but wouldn't that be like infinitely** worse than the flesh-eating disease? And doesn't it seem kinda plausible that it could exist because of the flesh-eating disease?

[Jackie]

Although...

I guess you might have been referring to what I wrote about delaying other stuff to focus on one thing when you said that what I wrote didn't make sense

[RodeoHK]

The edit button is your friend.

[Jackie]

Well sometimes (not all the time but sometimes) when I try and use it, little squares/circles etc appear in the message box and I become unable to edit the message as a result

I'm not sure why that happens...usually I re-gain my ability to edit messages at some point afterwards

[MrHouse]

Maybe it's some kind of e-kryptonite.

[Jackie]

Well maybe others have experienced similiar problems with the editing button

However, it could just be my computer thats causing the problem

It is annoying though, because I like to write out rough drafts of posts and then good copies sometimes and when i can't edit posts I end up doing things like double-posting

Anyways no need for pointless sarcasm such as what was involved with calling it e-kryptonite

But my computer is a bitch sometimes...earlier every time I tried to have two or more windows open (With internet explor) I would have to force-quit internet explorer as a result because it would freeze

[MrHouse]

Yes that was really offensive I agree.

[Jackie]

it wasn't offensive. I just thought it was a bit pointless. Maybe if it had been more meaningful to me I wouldn't have felt that way. And I didn't say it was offensive. Then again you could have been referring to double-posting or something and not the sarcasm? Anyways sometimes I double-post because I feel that people won't notice changes in posts previously made (And when I refer to double-posting in this post/other posts I'm pretty much referring to making two or more identical or non-identical posts in succession) Other than those two reasons, I don't think that there's any other reasons why I double post

Anyways I guess your post wasn't completely pointless as it could be considered a useful example of sarcasm. It just sort of seemed like a pointless post to me...but I didn't say that it was offensive, although I guess the pointlessness of things can seem/be offensive...sometimes the pointlessness of things is kind of offensive to me I guess (But not in a personal way)

[MrHouse]

I don't think your post was appropriate, no need for you talking about things.

[Jackie]

What was inappropriate in it, exactly? It could have been useful/productive to find out if other people had the same/similiar problems with the edit button

[Jackie]

Actually if you were being sarcastic when you said "Yes that was really offensive I agree." that post appears to be kind of pointless

I'm not saying that sarcasm is always pointless it just sometimes seems that way when it doesn't appear to be humorous or interesting, etc. Though your sarcasm is kind of cute sometimes

[MrHouse]

Oh really

[Jackie]

oh really what

lol I'm kind of creepily reminded now of that picture RRBM put up of the bird with the words o really written on it.. (but the words were spelled o riley or something) (They appeared to mean "oh really" though)

nonetheless that picture was somewhat amusing though it's hard to tell exactly..
why

[MrHouse]

Yeah, but who cares, right?

[Jackie]

I'd kind of agree, seeing as how I feel like I have so much apathy sometimes :p

But you didn't really even clarify what you were saying "Yeah, but who cares, right?" in regards to in my opinion

[MrHouse]

Are you asking me to clarify that I don't care?

[Jackie]

I'm asking you to clarify what you were saying you didn't care about

Why the hell are we awake at like 2:17 AM? What time zone are you guys in?

[MrHouse]

Can you clarify what the time has anything to do about my opinion?

[Jackie]

Anyways there seems to be a bit of sarcasm about this

I might as well point out that I only feel apathetic when I feel like I'm not in control....I just choose not to care about stuff which I feel I can't control

However, I feel a very strong lack of control over things in the world sometimes...therefore I have a lot of apathy every so often

[Jackie]

It didn't have anything to do with your opinion...I was just wondering what time zone people were in

[MrHouse]

I feel a big lack of control over you right now, so I don't care what the fuck you say.

[David Patton]

Anyways there seems to be a bit of sarcasm about this

I might as well point out that I only feel apathetic when I feel like I'm not in control....I just choose not to care about stuff which I feel I can't control

However, I feel a very strong lack of control over things in the world sometimes...therefore I have a lot of apathy every so often

Does anyone have any idea what she is talking about?

[MrHouse]

Does it seem like I do?

[Jackie]

I was talking about the fact that there seems to be a lot of sarcasm in regards to the fact that I said that I felt like I had a lot of apathy towards things. Which was because I felt like I couldn't control things. Which was because, very recently, for a long while, I had no control over a lot of things that I wished I did. I said something about the fact that I thought I could find horrible things funny due to, essentially, the fact that I felt like I had a lot of apathy; this started a feud between me and Mr. House which was probably never really resolved, and may have fueled the sarcasm about apathy

I should probably make more of an effort to change things in a positive way/to keep things going positively than I do, and thus lower the amount of apathy that I have (Which stems from the fact that I don't feel like I have very much control)....but that's not working very well because I feel like I don't have much control due to the fact that I lost control over the important things that I wanted to keep control over

[Jackie]

And even though I have goals and could work on them right now and thus feel more in control, I'm not doing that because I'm obsessed with this one thing which I will eventually get somewhere with but the key word is eventually

Sorry if I'm venting and stuff, but it's 2:38 AM and I felt like venting

[RodeoHK]

I was talking about the fact that there seems to be a lot of sarcasm in regards to the fact that I said that I felt like I had a lot of apathy towards things. Which was because I felt like I couldn't control things. Which was because, very recently, for a long while, I had no control over a lot of things that I wished I did. I said something about the fact that I thought I could find horrible things funny due to, essentially, the fact that I felt like I had a lot of apathy; this started a feud between me and Mr. House which was probably never really resolved, and may have fueled the sarcasm about apathy

I should probably make more of an effort to change things in a positive way/to keep things going positively than I do, and thus lower the amount of apathy that I have (Which stems from the fact that I don't feel like I have very much control)....but that's not working very well because I feel like I don't have much control due to the fact that I lost control over the important things that I wanted to keep control over

Long-winded posts do not equal intelligence.

[David Patton]

Well now that clearified everything.

:roll:

[Jackie]

At the moment I don't care about sounding intelligent...I'm just writing to write what I want to write. I don't really care how it sounds. But it's 3:05 am and I feel like writing.

Anyways in conclusion to the above posts:

Apparently Mr. House thinks I'm a jackass bitch or something...whatever, I don't really care if I can't change his opinion (And I'm not sure that, even if I could, I would want to make the effort that might be necessary to)

However, I do want to have a positive effect on people, when I get some stuff sorted out which is taking a depressingly long time to get sorted out. I guess I don't really have a lot of apathy but I prefer not to deal with emotions which makes me feel lots of apathy. Anyways, when/if I finish sorting out what I'm currently trying to, I'll probably try and make this huge effort to have a positive impact on people frequently because I believe that people have potential....Not that I know for sure how I could always have a positive effect on people, but I was thinking that I could have a positive effect on people by encouraging them to seek stimulation (Eg by going to art museums, etc with them) and by encouraging them to try and be healthy and so on

Anyways I felt like writing....I wasn't writing for anyone else and so I don't care how I sounded to anyone else. I especially don't care because it's 3:12 AM in my time zone

[Jackie]

Maybe people should realize that sometimes people just write to write what they feel, and not to (always) purposefully sound as intelligent as they could

If I come of as trying to sound intelligent, and yet I'm not actually caring about sounding intelligent...what does that tell you exactly? Anyways whatever. I suppose you'll say that if I was intelligent, I would care about how I sounded all the time, but I've been thinking a lot recently and come to the conclusion that....while I seek stimulation through hearing other people's opinions...I don't necessarily care about them and that's because people...kind of strike me as stupid- a lot. I'm not saying that I'm not stupid at least sometimes but the fact that there are so many stupid people in the world really make me not care about and/or question other people's opinions perhaps more than I should

Anyways I didn't fucking write these posts for anyone else, I wrote them becuse I wanted to write and to maybe read what somebody had to say about it. DOES SOMEBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

[Briesias]

Jackie, whatever one does here, they'll be complaints [adverse comment] Just do whatever you want.

[Jackie]

Well obviously lol...I mean it's like the superficial.com was made to complain about people (albeit in a humorous way) at least somewhat...so it's not like I'm surprised that the forums have complaints/adverse comments in them frequently

I just felt like writing so thanks for letting me do that...it's fine with me if somebody writes complains/adverse comments about what I wrote since I'll probably either A: enjoy being stimulated by them or B: not care about thm

Anyways thanks for the comment/warning I think

[Briesias]

Well obviously lol...I mean it's like the superficial.com was made to complain about people (albeit in a humorous way) at least somewhat...so it's not like I'm surprised that the forums have complaints/adverse comments in them frequently

I just felt like writing so thanks for letting me do that...it's fine with me if somebody writes complains/adverse comments about what I wrote since I'll probably either A: enjoy being stimulated by them or B: not care about thm

Anyways thanks for the comment/warning I think

Warning? ooh no no no.
You got it going on as shown by this "l'll probably either A: enjoy being stimulated by them or B: not care about them."

[David Patton]

Jackie, if you are writing for yourself, then you should probably not be posting. If you are interested in what people will say about your writing, then you are not writing for yourself at all, but for the reader.

The funniest thing I have seen from one of your posts was that you said that you edit your posts before you send them. I found that very funny as your posts seem to be the most incoherent, illogical, non-focused things I have ever read.

If you have a point to any of this, then it may be helpful to follow some plan.

1. Think first what you are talking about.

2. State as clearly as you can what it is you are asking or saying.

3. Don't ramble.

Best of luck to you.

[Jackie]

k Well I guess I'll summarize by saying that Mr. House was an asshole for calling me whatever he did (which was a bunch of negative things) just because I felt like I could find humor in things that were negative

Most of the time I do edit my posts (Though I'm not sure how often people see the editing)..the above posts I didn't edit-those I just wrote without editing because I was tired and just wanted to write. I didn't write the above posts for anybody else but at the same time after I wrote the posts I thought that I would be maybe interested in other people's opinions of what I wrote...

there does that make sense now?

So now I'm interested in other people's opinions of what I wrote...but originally, the above posts were not written for the benefit of anyone else but me

[David Patton]

If you are just writing without thinking, I can tell you what people are going to think of what you had to say.

They are going to check behind your ear and see if it says, "Inflate to 35psi" and I don't think that is what you would be interested in hearing peoples opinions about your writing on a topic.

If it is late where you are and you are not able to properly think about what you are saying or are thinking as you write, then stop and go to sleep. Wake up later, when you can think clearly and try thinking and writing then.

In that order. Engage brain, then speak or write.

[MrHouse]

k Well I guess I'll summarize by saying that Mr. House was an asshole for calling me whatever he did (which was a bunch of negative things) just because I felt like I could find humor in things that were negative

Stop bringing this up you moron. This has nothing to do with this thread at all.


You'll summarize? Summarize another thread to explain this one? You make no fucking sense whatsoever.

[iambatman]

If there was genetic engineering and what not, then you wouldn't exist.

[Jackie]

I summarized what I was trying to say in a sentence or two after writing what I did because it seemed the easiest way to get my point across (Since apparently nobody was getting the point) This thread wasn't going anywhere, that's why I chose to write in it when I felt like writing. If you want to close the thread, go ahead, but don't blame people for writing things in it when/if it's not going to go anywhere and no one's going to close it. I didn't write because I cared what other people thought...I wrote because I felt like writing. Afterwards I was interested in other's opinions on what I wrote...but I'll admit that I was really really tired when I wrote last night and that as a result opinions on what I wrote probably wouldn't have helped. Normally I don't write without thinking..last night I kind of did because I was tired and just wanted to write/vent. If somebody has a problem with the fact that I wanted to write/vent and did so without thinking because I was tired, then fine whatever. Also, sometimes I'll make posts which aren't as efficent as they could be and edit them a few times to make them more efficent (last night did not consist of any of those times)

I brought up the topic because it was bothering me, this thread was going nowhere anyway

And iambatman that was kind of a low, unproductive comment to make but whatever; and don't think you're so perfect either. I could go into why I dislike you and why I think that one or more other people here dislike you, but I don't really see the point especially since I don't know you in real life (But the comment you just made is one reason I dislike you now. You made another comment in another thread which made me really dislike you as well..if you want to know what it is I'll find it and type it out.)

(This post is only in regards to this thread and last night pretty much. It may have been edited since the last time people read it, also sorry if I repeated myself in it a bit)

[Jackie]

Anyways either close/lock the thread or make it go somewhere I guess

[iambatman]

And iambatman that was kind of a low, unproductive comment to make but whatever; and don't think you're so perfect either. I could go into why I dislike you and why I think that one or more other people here dislike you, but I don't really see the point especially since I don't know you in real life (But the comment you just made is one reason I dislike you now. You made another comment in another thread which made me really dislike you as well..if you want to know what it is I'll find it and type it out.)


If there was genetic engineering and what not, then you wouldn't exist.

I brought up a legitimate point in genetic engineering. If it continues along the path that it is, then parents can (and do today) pick the features that they want their child to have, hence somebody who exists today wouldn't if they were born in the future. Think of all our great leaders and innovators who wore glasses. They wouldn't exist because they had bad eyes; their embryo would simply be thrown away. And, my comment was not targeted at you or anyone.

[Jackie]

Okay well sorry I misinterpreted your post

That's a good point....feel free to elaborate on it some more. Sorry I said that I didn't like you...I pretty much only said that because I misinterpreted your post